Hungarian Dance Performance by Tisza Ensemble  today ( 5/27 Saturday )
at the occasion of World Fest Freedom in Washington, D.C.
13 & 14th Street & Pennsylvania Ave;
exactly at 3:00 PM


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A Working-group of the Hungarian Old-Scouts in Hamilton, Ontario
(Hunyadi Matya's Munkako~zo~sse'g or HMMK), have been
distributing good Hungarian history books to libraries all over
the world for years. Now they are embarked on a project, to put
some of these books on a CD. A number of us are helping to get
the electronic version of the following 10 books in shape to be
placed on a CD.

Author: Title                                               Page
> ================================================================
Borsody, Stephen ed.: The Hungarians, A Divided Nation       405
Borsody, Stephen: The New Cetral Europe                      322
Chaszar, Edward: Decision in Vienna                          165
Cseres, Tibor: Titoist Atrocities in Vojvodina, 1944-45      167
Illyes, Elemer: Ethnic Continuity in the Charpato-Danubian   440
Illyes, Elemer: National Minorities in Romania. Change in T  354
Kertesz, Staphen D.: Between Russia and the West             300
Kertesz, Staphen D.: The Last European Peace Conference      192
Lote, Louis I. ed: Transylvania and the Theory of Daco-Roman 112
Wagner, Frances S.: Toward a New Central Europe              322

Soon rough scanned copies of an other 10 books will be ready.
HMMK obtained the right to distribute these books in any form
they wish, including the Internet.

They would welcome any suggestion for a suitable Internet site
where these books could be uploaded, so those who are interested
could download them via FTP, GOPHER or some other WEB browser
program.

Please send your comments or suggestions to the list or to my e-
mail address. The HMMK has no internet access. BTW they could
also use some more volunteers to proofread scanned text.

Barna Bozoki

Charles writes:

>I have a hard time beliving that "szia" and "szerbusz" are different >ways
>of saying the same thing.  "Szia", I would venture to say, is slang, >or
>coloquialism of the English expression "See you.."

I would agree with you if I hadn't heard "szia" in the winter of 1956 in
Austria in the refugee student camp I was staying. English/American culture
simply didn't penetrate Rakosi's Hungary--we were terribly cut off. Our
language skills were wanting because only Russian was taught in school and
for some "strange" reason, no one learned Russian well enough to be able to
say two words to the Russian soldiers in October 1956. English as a foreign
language was not preeminent between the two world wars and after. Very few
people were able to speak or even read English. Most people knew German best
because before 1948 it was taught for eight years in gymnasium. Their Latin
was pretty good too: also eight years of it. And they had a smattering of
Greek because they learned four years of Greek in high school. In the
so-called Realgymnasiums instead of Latin and Greek they taught a second
modern language, normally French, for four years. No English-speaking
tourists could be found on the streets of Budapest. Therefore, it is hard to
imagine that it is a direct borrowing.

If I hadn't heard the word in 1956-57 and if it became prevalent only, let's
say, in the 1980s I would be also sure that it is a misunderstood English
word.

Eva Balogh

I'm teaching a course this fall on Hungarian music -- including some
popular culture topics. I'm wondering if the following film material
might be available from among the _Hungary_  or _Forum_ readership:
1. Good footage of a
Translvanian wedding. 2. Local nativity/shepherd's play productions, 3.
Old films starring Katalin Karady 4. Any nepszinmuvek.
Thank you.

The proposal failed to win the required super-majority, as the summary 
included here shows (I reposited the full voting report into the HIX
SENDDOC archive: new/soc.culture.hungarian-RESULT).
 Thanks to everyone who participated!		-- Zoli 


                                RESULT
         unmoderated group soc.culture.hungarian fails 157:91

There were 157 YES votes and 91 NO votes, for a total of 248 valid votes.
There were 6 abstains and 4 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may
not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.hungarian	The Hungarian (Magyar) people & their culture.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee >. For questions
about the proposed group contact Zoli Fekete >.

The proposal failed to win the required super-majority, as the summary
included here shows (I reposited the full voting report into the HIX
SENDDOC archive: new/soc.culture.hungarian-RESULT).
 Thanks to everyone who participated!           -- Zoli 


                                RESULT
         unmoderated group soc.culture.hungarian fails 157:91

There were 157 YES votes and 91 NO votes, for a total of 248 valid votes.
There were 6 abstains and 4 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may
not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.hungarian   The Hungarian (Magyar) people & their culture.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee >. For questions
about the proposed group contact Zoli Fekete >.

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