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1995-12-23
Új cikk beküldése (a cikk tartalma az író felelõssége)
Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: SCM: New Year + Szilveszter (was Re: How to say ... (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
2 Cours Laval Hors Campus Minorites ethniques et mouvemen (mind)  60 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Need help with MAGYAR (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Magyars Hun-ancestry !? (was Re: Joe & Quebec .... (mind)  13 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: New Year + Szilveszter (was Re: How to say ...) (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Where was Great Moravia? (mind)  73 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: SCM: New Year + Szilveszter (was Re: How to say ... (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

It's Szilveszter because it's Szilveszter's name day, isn't it?  That's what
I think!
--Shannon Morris
+ - Cours Laval Hors Campus Minorites ethniques et mouvemen (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

OBJET: Cours Laval Hors Campus 
Minorités ethniques et mouvements nationalitaires


Le Département d’anthropologie de l’Université Laval offrira du 20
janvier au 3 mars 1996 un cours intitulé Minorités ethniques et
mouvements nationalitaires.  Ce cours sera donné à Longueuil sous
forme de fins de semaine intensives.

Minorités ethniques et mouvements nationalitaires

Le phénomène «ethnique» n’a cessé de soulever la controverse et de
susciter l’intérêt.  La résurgence des conflits ethniques dans le
monde contemporain continue de faire la manchette: poudrière ethnique
et nationale dans les Balkans ou au Moyen-Orient, débats sur les
sociétés pluriculturelles, afflux de réfugiés, formation de diasporas,
invectives sur le racisme et l’antiracisme, «passions» de l’égalité et
de la différence. Sur fond de conflits idéologiques, religieux et
économiques, de fascination et d’effroi devant l’étrange et
l’étranger, se profilent des préjugés et des stéréotypes, des
attitudes d’exclusion et de xénophobie, des pratiques discriminatoires
et ultimement des discours et des violences ethnistes ou racistes.
Parallèlement, nombre d’États et de sociétés tentent de réguler la
diversité socio-culturelle en distinguant les ethniques, les
immigrants de leurs nationaux, ou encore en déterminant des principes
d’intégration à l’espace civil ou national.  Ici comme là, des notions
apparaissent pour classer et distinguer, nommer autrui.  Groupe
ethnique, minorité, ethnicité, nationalité, minorité visible, race,
culture, multiculturalisme, interculturalisme sont des mots usuels et
savants qui exigent d’être saisis dans leur complexité et parfois dans
leur confusion.  Qu’est-ce donc que cet archipel aux contours mal
définis ? Comment distinguer le fait ethnique des autres pratiques
sociales ?  L’ethnicité de la culture et de l’idéologie ? Les marques
«ethniques» des traces «phénotypiques» ? L’appartenance ethnique de la
classe sociale ? L’identité ethnique de l’identité nationale ? Autant
de questions et d’enjeux qui méritent qu’on fasse le point sur les
concepts, les théories et les situations.

Le titulaire du cours

Mikhaël Elbaz est professeur titulaire au Département d’anthropologie
de l’Université Laval.  Il travaille dans ce domaine depuis plus de 20
ans et y poursuit des recherches notamment sur le pluralisme ethnique
au Québec et à Montréal tout en ayant une expérience dans d’autres
régions du monde.  Il contribue à la préparation d’une exposition sur
l’immigration au Musée de la Civilisation et dispose de plusieurs
documents pédagogiques pour assurer le dialogue et le transfert des
connaissances sur les minorités ethniques et les relations
interculturelles.

Les personnes qui désirent de plus amples informations ou qui veulent
s’inscrire à ce cours peuvent communiquer avec la DIRECTION GÉNÉRALE
DE LA FORMATION CONTINUE en composant sans frais le 1 800 561-0478
poste 3202.  


Nick Bernard
Adjoint à la direction
Département d’anthropologie

+ - Re: Need help with MAGYAR (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Vikram wrote:
> 
> I need to write HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU  in the Magyar langauge.
>  Would somebody help, please.
> Thanks.
> 
> VikramYou may say simply:
"Boldog szuletesnapot kivanok!"
You could also be a bit more emphatic by adding an object "to you",
which could be "neked", if informal (like the Shakespearean "thee"),
or onnek (if you want/have to be formal, like toward a "superior",
older person, etc., like the German "Sie"... Ich wunsche Ihnen (dative
of Sie, or the French "vou", Spanish "usted")
Vow, this is getting complicated. In that case I won"t even point out
the diacriticals you'd have to use if you wanted to be precise.
Visz' lat' LH
+ - Re: Magyars Hun-ancestry !? (was Re: Joe & Quebec .... (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 () writes:


> ...singular event in Hungarian history exactly 1,100 years ago. ...
                                         ^^^^^^^

[...]

> Well, isn't it also possible that the Gesta is not to be taken too literally
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ...

--
+ - Re: New Year + Szilveszter (was Re: How to say ...) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dec. 31 is the name-day for Szilveszter, and thus a "borrowing" from the 
Catholic calendar I think.

--
 Zoli , keeper of <http://hix.mit.edu/hungarian-faq/>;
 <'finger '> 
 NOTE: spamsters and bulk emailers see 'X-Policy*:' in the 
header for the charges to be imposed for net abuse!

On 19 Dec 1995, Dr Alex M Farkas (Staff) wrote:
> Anybody know why we use the word "Szilveszter" in relation to this? Is it jus
t
> one of those "Latin" borrowings?  I know all my Polski, Hrvatski and Srpski
> (not sure about Russkiy) friends use something similar too ...
+ - Re: Where was Great Moravia? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 (Liviu Iordache) wrote:

>Definitely, Bowlus' work is a must.

Fortunately, our library has a copy, which I've just completed
reading.  Well, I hardly expect Slavists to jump on the Boba
bandwagon just because of this book!  Bowlus's knowledge of
the Latin  sources is impressive, but otherwise the book has
numerous flaws. Let me just mention a few of them.  

1) Bowlus is confused by the  Slavic ethnicons which he
encounters in the various sources.  He doesn't seem to understand
that, depending upon the author and the period, different names, e.g.
Wend and Slav, can be used to describe the same tribal unit. Generally,
I find his choice of terminology very distracting, e.g. "Zwentibald".
He's also not consistent in his terminology, e.g. Tisza and Tiza.  

2) The reader has to assume that Bowlus doesn't read any Slavic
languages.  His book is based mainly on Latin sources (although he
mentions sources in other languages).  Concerning articles and books,
his bibliography consists primarily of German sources.  In order to
discuss the mission of Cyril and Methodius, for example, one needs
a sound knowledge of OCS and at least a little linguistic training.

3) His lack of mastery of Slavic results in some significant
omissions.  One of the main arguments, to my mind, which refutes the 
"southern Moravia" hypothesis is the reference in the Life 
of Methodius to the "powerful pagan prince on the Vistula." 

4) Reading the book, I got the impression that Bowlus is less
interested in discussing the obvious contradictions which arise
in studying Great Moravia than he is in convincing the reader 
that Boba's hypothesis is correct.  This is a polemic, not a
reasoned discussion of all the rational evidence.  

>>I also recommend Lubomir Havlik's <Kronika o Velke Morave> 
>>(Brno, 1994), which is based upon original sources from Latin, Greek,
>>Slavic, Hebrew, Arabic, and Germanic.
>
>I checked a reference data base and found a 1987 1st edition,  a
>second one from 1992, but nothing from 1994.

Sorry, I gave you the wrong date.  The new edition was 
published in Brno in 1992.  
Havlik (Lubomir, NOT Ludomil, as Bowlus refers to him) is the
chief authority in Moravia on Great Moravian history.  In 
<Kronika> he was has constructed a chronology of Great Moravian
history from Jordanes' time to the 11th century, when Moravia
officially became a margraviate.  He quotes some very interesting
and little known Czech-language works on Moravian history.  Havlik's
book too  has some flaws.  It is designed for a popular audience. 
Havlik is not successful in incorporating archeological and linguistic
evidence (like Bowlus, he is a historian).   But it is 
nevertheless a valuable resource for anyone interested in
the history of East Central Europe.  
The Moravian Heritage Society based in Cal and NY is attempting to
have it translated to English and published here, but I'm not sure
how far along they have come.  

At any rate, thanks for the reference.  I'm glad to learn about the
Bowlus book.  It demonstrates that now, more than at any 
other time in the past, it is important that one or more 
scholars put together a
study which incorporates ALL archeological, historical, and
linguistic evidence.  If only someone would synthesize the good
scholarship from Bowlus, Havlik, and other works, and include the
relevant linguistic and archeological data!  

Kevin Hannan
>
>Liviu Iordache
>
>

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