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|+ - ||KROPETIC, where is it???? (mind)
I am looking for the city/town/village of KROPETIC. I believe my
ancestors are from here. If you have heard of this place please respond.
|+ - ||1956: THE BETRAYAL OF HUNGARY (mind)
1956: THE BETRAYAL OF HUNGARY
By the end of President Eisenhower's first term, concern about
communism was almost non-existent. Aroused by American
campaign oratory and Voice of America broadcasts about "rolling
back the Iron Curtain" and "freeing the captive peoples," the
Hungarians revolted and drove out their Russian captors.
During their five days of freedom, [the Freedom Fighters] appealed
in vain for help. U.S. diplomatic recognition was requested. It was
never given. The U.S. announced that it "couldn't get involved."
The Hungarian affair was referred to the United Nations. Americans
sat up through the nights in early November 1956 listening to the
stirring oratory of Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge in the UN. They
didn't know that it had no real meaning.
When President Eisenhower sent the Hungarian affair to the United
Nations, he was, in effect, telling the Soviet Union to do as it
pleased. [And it did just that!] The communists had the veto in the
UN Security Council and could stop any action. Finally, on
November 4, 1956, the Hungarian Freedom Fighter Radio Station
broadcast these last words:
"People of the world, listen to our call. Help us not with words, but
with actions, with soldiers and arms. Please do not forget that this
wild attack of Bolshevism will not stop. You may be the next victim.
Save us... Our ship is sinking. The light vanishes. The shadows grow
darker from hour to hour. Listen to our cry. Start moving. Extend to
us your brotherly hands... God be with you and us."
The Hungarian Freedom Fighters conducted their rooftop vigils in
vain, watching and waiting for American planes... which never
came. Most Americans didn't understand what it meant when the United
States referred the Hungarian affair to the UN. Is it possible that
President Eisenhower and his State Department didn't know what
they were doing? They did know. They meant for the Hungarian
revolt to fail. After four years of silence, Congressman Michael
Feighan (D-Ohio) released the text of a State Department cablegram
to Tito, the communist dictator of Yugoslavia. Dispatched on
November 2, 1956. the telegram to Tito read:
"The Government of the United States does not look with favor
upon governments unfriendly to the Soviet Union on the borders of
the Soviet union." [Congressional Record, Aug.31. 1960 /p.226./]
It was no accident, Congressman Feighan charged, that just 36 hours
later Soviet tanks re-invaded Hungary. The Kremlin butchered
Budapest, secure in the knowledge that America would not oppose
them. The U.S. State Department had given its approval!
Would aid to Hungary have provoked war? It is unlikely.
Khrushchev and the Kremlin had one overriding fear, the
simultaneous revolt of the enslaved peoples. In November 1956, the
satellites were restless. Localizing rioting had erupted in Russia.
Some of the Red troops in Budapest deserted their offices and joined
the Freedom Fighters For this reason Khrushchev could not risk war.
He hesitated five days in Hungary. Finally, savage Mongolian troops
were imported from Asia to crush the uprising. Even these forces
were not commited until Khrushchev had tacit U.S. approval.
Three years later in a speech in Budapest, Khrushchev himself
admitted the Kremlin's indecision on using force in Hungary. Had
the United States made a show of force, or even granted diplomatic
recognition, the Kremlin would have abandoned Hungary. The
United Nations, if the U.S. feared to intervene, could have sent
observers into Hungary the instant the Russians were driven out.
When the Hungarians were condemned to die alone, the hopes and
faith of millions of the world's most dedicated anti-communists died
with them. Our staunchest allies, the enslaved people behind the Iron
Curtain now believe they cannot expect help from America. If
Americans lose their freedom, the beginning of the end came in
Any hope remaining behind the Iron Curtain was ereased forever
when in July 1959 President Eisenhower invited the Butcher of
Budapest, Nikita Khrushchev to America... (...)"/John A. Stormer:
NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON, USA 1964. pp.47-49/
Posted by Judit Toth
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I would be happy to send you the details
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To anyone who may know:
I am trying to contact some Hungarian associations and newspapers with
a press release regarding the plight of Hungarians in Romania. If
anyone has email addresses, phone or fax numbers for any such
organizations, could you please email me?
- major hungarian newspapers in the U.S.
- the principal hungarian daily newspapers in Budapest
- the Democratic Union of Magyars in Romania, aka Democratic Alliance
of Hungarians in Romania (D.U.M.R. or U.D.M.R.), the political party
representing the Hungarian minority in Romanian parliament.
I really appreciate your help,
|+ - ||Re: HELP: I m looking for christmas greetings in foreig (mind)
Selamat Tahun Baru (happy New Year)
Selamat Hari Natal (MErry Christmas)
Above are in Malay Language.
SIn Nien Kuai Lek (Happy New Year in Chinese)
T.S. Khaw (Grandmaster) /Disclaimer:
e-mail: \ Above are all my opinion(s).
A warm smile is a universal language of kindness :))
mcmxcvi (C) TSKHAW
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In article >, says...
>I would like to know if there are web sites which have hungarian
>recipes. My mother (and all my mothers family) is hungarian, and I love
>hungarian food. I am interested in recipes in English or Spanish for me,
>and in Hungarian for my grandmother. I apologise if this isn`t the best
>group to post this message, but it is the only place I think that can
>help me. I would also gladly receive recipes to my e-mail address.
Try rec.food.cooking for general enquiries, rec.food.recipes for specific
recipe requests. Searches on the Web for such expressions as "galuska"
can also bring up good sources (I found Excite the most useful for such
I can also recommend Eva Kende's cookbook (Eva's Hungarian Kitchen): a
good summary of the most typical Hungarian recipes, with a short intro
to Hungarian history, customs and cuisine. The recipes are not of
the overcomplicated type and the special Hungarian ingredients not
obtainable outside of Hungary are replaced with the closest equivalents
available in Western countries (no idea how applicable in Venezuela,
though). The price is modest, but she does not take credit cards,
since it is a small self-published enterprise. You can contact her at
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Version: 0.90 (beta)
This document summarizes network-related resources of Hungarian
interest, which are accessible via email. Some of the most readily
available sources of information can be found in the archives of
periodical information postings to Usenet; these documents are commonly
known as FAQs (from Frequently Asked/Answered Questions). Knowing the
name of the file you can retrieve it by sending email to
with the command "send
usenet/news.answers/<ARCHIVE-NAME>" in the message (without the quotes,
and with substituting the actual name for <ARCHIVE-NAME> in the pattern
shown above) - for example, to get the document described below, use
To learn more about the RTFM server just send the command "help" to it
- it will provide step-by-step intstructions on how to use the
archives, on retrieving indexes and so on.
"Hungarian electronic resources FAQ" is a comprehensive collection
dealing with email, FTP, WWW and other Internet tools; its archive name
is 'hungarian-faq' (and the mail-server command to get it is shown in
the example above).
If you only have direct access to email then, in order to use the
other tools, you'll need the methods described in "Accessing The
Internet By E-Mail" (Archive-name:
To get a general introduction to Usenet (with some guides to Internet
as well - and explanation of how they are different, too) see "Welcome
to news.newusers.questions!" (Archive-name: news-newusers-intro).
For a guide to finding someone's e-mail addresses, see the "FAQ: How
to find people's E-mail addresses" (Archive-name: finding-addresses).
Do notice that it's usually inappropriate to send such blanket requests
to mailing lists; the search tools available give much better chance to
locate addresses sought than posted queries in any case!
An overview of commercial on-line services in Hungary is available by
John Horvath >
The hungarian-faq describes several email lists related to Hungary;
only a brief summary is shown here. Please keep in mind that
subscription requests (and other administrative communications) should
be directed to the server address, NOT to the lists themselves.
List: (the HUNGARY LISTSERV list)
List: HOL (Hungary Online)
Lists: OMRI-L (Open Media Research Institute Daily Digest)
MIDEUR-L (Middle European discussion list)
List: cet-online (Central Europe Today On-Line; email )
List: CERRO-L (Central European Regional Research Organization)
Server: email to (Hollosi Information Exchange)
Lists: HIX is a collection of several separate lists, including
- MOZAIK, a collection of news items in English
- various discussion forums in Hungarian language
- SCM and HUNGROUPS, which are email-accessible archives of the Usenet
newsgroup soc.culture.magyar and the hun.* national hierarchy,
respectively; to get a directory listing of these archives (as well
as that of other HIX lists), send email to with
"arch" in the 'Subject:' line. Note that the SENDDOC utility takes
its parameter from the 'Subject:' of the message (unlike many other
servers, like the ones described previously, which use the body)!
Note that this document is available on the
<http://hix.mit.edu/hungarian-faq/> homepage for the "Hungarian
electronic resources FAQ" at the HIX WWW-server.
The latter also provides access for the full FAQ via
'finger ', and for this brief pointer you are
reading via 'finger ' (notice that you
will likely need to redirect the output to a pager or a file in order
to read it). The Usenet archive name for this document is
Zoli , keeper of <http://hix.mit.edu/hungarian-faq/>
NOTE: spamsters and bulk emailers see 'X-Policy*:' in the
header for the charges to be imposed for net abuse!