In article >  (aheringer) writes:

>Ma reggel hallottam a magyar radioban hogy meghalt Simandy Jozsef.  80 
>eves volt.  A 80 eves szuletesnapjara a magyar operahaz nagy unnepseg 
>kereteben nekiajandekozta a Bank Ban kosztumot, amiben annyiszor enekelte 
>el a Hazam, hazam, te mindenem cimu ariat.

>Tavaly itt volt Torontoban.  Itt is elenekelte, de sajnos, jobb lett 
>volna, ha megtartom emlekeimben ugy, ahogy hoskoraban enekelte.
>Beke poraira!

>Agnes

Azt hiszem, korunk legnagyobb magyar tenorja't sirathatjuk. Ho"stenor 
szerepekben utole'rhetetlen, lirai dallamokban az egyik legkiva'lo'bb.
Nyugodje'k be'ke'ben.
GK

 (Alexander N. Bossy) writes:

>On Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:15:54 -0500,  (T.M.Lutas)
>wrote:

>>If NATO membership is real-politik then Romania's membership has even greater
 
>>weight behind it. 

I have to agree. Hungary, while it had one of the most stable
goverments in the region, has very little to offer
to NATO. Yeah, we do have airspace. 


>>
>>With both Hungary and Romania in NATO, how would Russia be able to 
>>rekindle mischief in the former territory of Yugoslavia? 

They could if they wanted to. 

>>If Turkey slides further toward Islamicization and starts looking more 
>>towards Iran than the US as a model how is NATO going to keep open its 
>>Black Sea options other than from Romanian ports.

Good point. I think the right powers will do their best to
avoid another Ayatollah fiasco. 

>>How could Balkan stability be assured with Romania out of NATO and Hungary 
>>in. It's a clear recipe for stirring up both ambition and paranoia. Is there 
>>a more dangerous mix in the Balkans?

I wouldn't look at it so pointedly. First of all, Hungary and the
larger part of Romania are not the Balkans. Second, I don't think
we are a dangerous mix. Let alone the most dangerous mix. After all, Hungarian
ambition and Romanian paranoia coexisted for centuries. -):


>This depends upon whether Romania is being told that she'll be
>admitted in the very near future (two or three years) or is being left
>out like the Baltic Republics are (as of now -- I suspect that the new
>NATO members will keep pushing for further enlargement -- after all,
>who wants to be the borderland over which the potential next war would
>be fought). 

The Baltic Reps would put NATO in a jam, should they ever need to
defend them. 

Seems to me, there is not much to gain by the membership. On either
side.

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 writes:

>aheringer wrote:
>> 
>> Talan a Zoli Fekete tud valamit csinalni.  Ugy tudom, van olyan, hogy
>> valakit ki lehet uzni egy listarol a serverjen keresztul.  Istvan,
>> sohasem gondoltam volna, hogy valamiben is valaha egyetertunk!
>> 
>> Agnes

>Agnes jo az otleted! Ez az illeto csak provokal a racist tipusu
>cikkeivel. En a cenzura ellen vagyok altalaban, de szerintem
>nekunk ez nem hianyzik. How about it Zoli ? 

>                    Mark

Van egy kis problema. A kiuzes e-mail cimmel kapcsolatos, nem szemellyel. Az 
AOL kebeleben akarki kb. 5 perc alatt uj cimet tud fabrikalni maganak. Ezert 
kedvelik a nevtelensegbe burkolodzo provokatorok.
GK

I wonder if it's pure coincidence that the three NATO candidates
mentioned most often as being invited in the first round of accession
are those countries that demonstarted active resistance against their
former Communist regimes.

Poland, of course, was in the forefront of it during most of her
post-war history and her 1956 Posnan events served as the catalyst
for igniting the Hungarian Uprising of the same year.
Then there was the 1968 Prague Spring, of course. None of the other
former East Bloc countries can show up any such events as these.

Do you think these events are paramount in the minds of Western leaders
in leaning toward these three countries or those events are just the
byproduct of the Western orientation of those countries and it's that
orientation that is appreciated by those Western leaders?

Joe Pannon
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On 6 Mar 1997 13:50:47 GMT, Istvan Lippai > wrote
:
>
>I bet you both had pretty good lives, thanks to your 56-er brothers. 

I think this is getting personal, Pista, and nobody was chastising you
personally about these things, as I have no idea about your family situation.  
Besides, what does your above statement have anything to do with the
original subject?  You have no idea what effect my 56-er brother had
on my life, just as I have no idea how what I said in general applies
to you personally and that it would send you on a guilt trip.  
So let's keep these things in mind, OK?

Joe Pannon
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Azok az 56-osok akik Camp Kilmer, New Jersey-ben kezdtek Amerikai 
eletuket erdekes emlekeztetot talalnanak az alabbi URL-on:
http://www.app.com/doc2/hungary.htm

Laszlo Horvath

In article > Laszlo Horvath 
nford.edu> writes:
>From: Laszlo Horvath >
>Subject: Re: Deng Xiaoping
>Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 09:12:01 -0800

>.....It's understood that if 
>Wally could piss (and it can be only symbolic act anyway) of Dengh's 
>grave now, he could have very well proposed to do it, let's say ten 
>months ago.

>But it would be nice to hear the Poetician's comments too.

>Sincerely, Laszlo

Let me offer a compromise:
The Chinese are busy making a 40 ft statue of Deng. If Wally wants to piss on 
the statue, that would be cheerable.
GK

"Istvan Lippai" > writes:

>> George Kovacs wrote:
>> > Well, if you think that pissing on a dead man's grave is greater than
>> > criticizing the dictator, that I guess I feel sorry for you, too.

>Laszlo Horvath > wrote (in response to above) 
>> Try to piss on their legs while they 
>> are in power, or often even when they are dead. Why to commit suicide? 

>Laszloval teljessen eggyet ertek.  Eloszor is miert veszitenenk el egy jo
>embert semmiert.

Azt hiszem nem egy kis kinairol beszeltunk Kinaban, hanem Wally-rol Canadaban. 
Nem hiszem, hogy Wally bortonbe kerult volna Deng kritizalasaert, amig eletben 
volt.
GK

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