I am researching my family's history.  If you know of a village called
Varbo or any information about Varbo, please e-mail me.  

Thank you very much,

Chris Martin

I am researching my Hungarian heritage and would appreciate any 
information you may have regarding a village named Varbo.

Please e-mail:



Thank you,

Chris Martin

In article >,
	Mircea Popescu > writes:
[.snip]

> Tot atat de vehement(a) ati fost si cand Horty a fost reinmormantat cu
> onoruri nationale in Budapesta, sau el reprezenta un adevarat erou national
> maghiar, care desi a ORDONAT curatirea etnica a Transilvaniei prin uciderea
> romanilor si trimiterea evreilor DIRECT in lagare de concentrare naziste,
> este ferit de judecata Istoriei ?

 I'm definitely not an admirer of the Admiral without a fleet (I would say
not at all!) but you should get your message closer to the facts. Horthy (see
the spelling?) was not buried with national honours, only the honours given by
its own family and all who attended the funerals, and definitely not in 
Budapest. So labeling him a hungarian national hero is nothing but a 
provocative and pretty cheap shot, really not expected from you (sigh).

 About the ethnic cleansing of Transylvania under the Horthy government, 
mainly that targeting the Romanian population,  you
should maybe start a whole new thread. It is really interesting me. I would 
like to hear about the casualities, the places and so on (but try to say 
something different from Ip and Trasnea, as I had the opportunity to learn
enough about them from the non-propagandistic RTV, you know, the usual end of 
august programs, with all those nice military people turned historian).

 By the way, that nasty Horthy maybe was not so nasty after all. The Allied 
Forces, quite sensible to the Holocaust issues, didn't seem eager to convict
him or even to trial him as a war criminal. A small thingy one can not say 
about the great hero, military and political genius Antonescu...
  
> MIRCEA Popescu

Best regards,

Zoli

(cross-posted on soc.culture.magyar)

Here goes Wally again with an other futile attempt to play with the big boys:
>
> In article >,
> >>>>> A label he used for others with so much enthusiasm! But
> >what do you expect from a big slab of self proclaimed beef?
> >>>>> GK                      /
>                              /
>                     An image I created
>                     that you thought was
>                     so good you had to use it
>                     instead of coming up
>                     with one of your own
>                     from your KoVACUOUS
>                     nonimagination.

Yes, you finally came up with something appropriate. So what? Do you have
copyright on it?

>
> >Almost all Wally could come up with:
> >>>> .................. the only appropoetic   <-(Note: no such word)
> >>>>response that could be offered: OINK! OINK!
>
> Note that the Vacuous One deleted this bit of imagery which preceeded the
> "appropoetic" which sums up his Usenet postings to a T:
> >>Given that this comment has about as much witty and imaginative substance
> >>as a morsal of pork rind on a slice of white break,
>

Yup. Everybody already read it, and I did not need it. So what?

> >>>> .................. the only appropoetic   <-(Note: no such word)
>                                                              /
>                                                        Pity, there is now.
>                                                        It's here for all to
>                                                        see, including
>                                                        cultural Philistines
>                                                        like you.

Did it make it to your favourite Oxford? I don't think so.
>
> >Practise you spelling.
>              \
>               \
>                OINK OINK
                       \
                        \
                         Mooooooooooo
                                     \
                                       You, practise spelling!
>
> >FYI, stating a fact does not require imagination. Knowledge is quite
> >sufficient.GK
>
> Sufficient for the unimaginative.

Nope. Just plain sufficient for everybody.

>
> However, here is fact about your posts:

Here is a fact, or here are facts? Practise grammar, too.

>   Given that this comment has about as much witty and imaginative substance
>   as a morsal of pork rind on a slice of white break,
                                                 ^^^^^\
OK, you got me on that one. Is this supposed to be bread?

>
> You are a BORE-TO-THE-CORE!
>
> Chow baby!
>
>

I bore you, you bore me
Dear poet wanna-be
Beef or pork you're free to choose
Either way you gonna loose.

OK. How's that sweethart?

PS.: IF you post it anyway, there is no need to e-mail me. I still read the ng.

Al Burzynski ) wrote:

: that name, but that is the only reference I can find. Does the word
: strzyz have a meaning or a root foundation in Hungarian? Thank you.

No.

Hungarian Folk Music by Ghymes Ensemble at the Hungarian Embassy,
	9/12/96, @ 7PM (19:00) 


The Ghymes Egyuttes is a highly acclaimed Hungarian folk ensemble from
Bratislava (Pozsony), Slovakia.  They play East-Central European music on
original folk instruments.  Their style and repertoire transcend cultural
boundaries as enthusiastic audiences in France, Switzerland, Finland,
Austria, Spain, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Greece, Jordan, Japan and
the United States will already testify. 

Cultural Events
Embassy of the Republic of Hungary
3910 Shoemaker Street, NW
Washington, D.C.

Make check payable to Hungarian American Cultural Association for
$15/person.

In article >, 
>>>>> A label he used for others with so much enthusiasm! But
>what do you expect from a big slab of self proclaimed beef?
>>>>> GK                      /
                             /
                    An image I created
                    that you thought was
                    so good you had to use it
                    instead of coming up
                    with one of your own
                    from your KoVACUOUS
                    nonimagination.              

>Almost all Wally could come up with:
>>>> .................. the only appropoetic   <-(Note: no such word)
>>>>response that could be offered: OINK! OINK!

Note that the Vacuous One deleted this bit of imagery which preceeded the 
"appropoetic" which sums up his Usenet postings to a T:
>>Given that this comment has about as much witty and imaginative substance
>>as a morsal of pork rind on a slice of white break,

>>>> .................. the only appropoetic   <-(Note: no such word)
                                                             /
                                                       Pity, there is now.
                                                       It's here for all to
                                                       see, including 
                                                       cultural Philistines
                                                       like you. 

>Practise you spelling. 
             \
              \
               OINK OINK

>FYI, stating a fact does not require imagination. Knowledge is quite 
>sufficient.GK

Sufficient for the unimaginative.

However, here is fact about your posts:
  Given that this comment has about as much witty and imaginative substance
  as a morsal of pork rind on a slice of white break,

You are a BORE-TO-THE-CORE!

Chow baby!

Hungarian Folk Music Concerts By Ghymes Ensemble (Pozsony, Szlovakia):

Sept. 13, 1996, 19:00 (7PM)
St. Istvan Templom
2015 W. Augusta, Chicago

Sept. 15, 1996, 19:00 (7PM)
The Getty College of Arts and Sciences Department of Music
Ohio Northern University
Ada, OH 45810

Ghymes is a Hugarian folk ensemble which has been playing together for ten
years.  Based in Bratislava (Pozsony - the former capital of Hungary),
Slovakia, they are members of the large ethnic Hungarian minority which
resides in the regions of Slovakia.  The members of Ghymes believe
strongly in the universality and binding strength of music to transcend
cultural and linguistic boundaries and bring us ever closer to global
harmony.

Since 1984 the band has performed as part of a state funded Hungarian
ensemble called Ifju Szivek (Young Hearts), which is comprised of a
foldance troupe, a symphony orchestra, a choir, an ancient music ensemble,
and Ghymes.  Ghymes became full-time professionals in 1990.

That same year the band widened its horizons by joining with a
French-based ensemble called Vents d'est (Eastern Wind).  Headed by Mique
Montanaro and comprised of singers and musicians playing French, Slavic
and Hungarian folk music they combine musical genres to create a new and
universal sound. This ongoing collaboration has yielded a French release
titled Migrations.

Ghymes began its life as folk musicians in the tradition of the Hungarian
tanchaz (community dance) revival of the 1960-70's.  For years they
conducted research tours, collecting songs for their repertoire and
playing as dance accompanists.  Convinced, however, that their tanchaz
based audience would be forever limited, they decided to break tradition
and play exclusively as concert musicians.  Their mission is to evolve and
build a new popular music based on Hungarian folk roots.  They aim their
music at the young people of the rock and roll generation, striving to
turn those minds to an appreciation of their own ethnic roots.
Simultaneaously they proliferate their sound, powerful and beautiful, to
audiences around the world.  They have toured Japan, Finland, France,
Switzerland, Austria, Iraq, Jordan, Spain, Greece, and for the first time
in 1994, the USA.  Always meeting an enthusiastic response, their live
music energizes and engages.  In concert they introduce the title song of
their album Message as being about freedom, music's freedom.  The music of
Ghymes is free, free of national boundaries and prejudices, free to move
us out of our seats and dance.

Members:=09Laszlo Behr=09hammer dulcimer, percussion
=09=09Andor Bujak=09viola, saxophone, bombard
=09=09Krisztian Bujak=09bagpipe, tarogato, percussion
=09=09Gyula Szarka=09bass, vocals, guitar, lyre, kalabash
=09=09=09=09zithern
=09=09Tamas Szarka=09violin, koboz, percussion

Releases:=09Ifjusag mint solyommadar (Youth as Falcon) 1988 LP
=09=09Ghymes 1991 CD
=09=09Uzenet (Message) 1993 CD
=09=09Bennunk van a kutyaver 1995 MC
=09=09Firejump 1996 MC

Contact:=09Monika Csikmak, Svatoplukova 1.  903 01 Senec, Slovakia
=09=09tel. 42 7 53 31 089, tel./fax. 42 7 923 872



Szilvia Bal=E1zs
--
personal email     : , 

 wrote:
> 
> In article >,  > wrote:
> >
> >En Szekely voltamra (pardon budos, piszkos, arulo, nacionalista,
> >alattomos olah voltamra), en egy Zagoni Szekely en a Hohenzoler Mihai
> >Roman Kiralyra eskuszom mert odahaza a kiss M.O.'ba  mar csak max. 20% a
> >magyar.
> >
> >1100 ev utan vege a hazassagnak is. A Nemes Sekely Nemzet uj gazdat
> >keres. Majd, megtanulunk Romanul es utana, a NATO kelety batyajanak, a
> >Tisza lesz a hatara a Nemetekkel es a Dnyeszter az Ukrannal.
> 
> Egy francot vagy te szekely!  Egyszeruen egy provokator vagy, akin eleg
> konnyu atlatni.  Egyebkent ha mar hataratrendezesekrol irsz ..., hat
> annak idejen nem epp erol egyezett meg *ALLITOLAG* Kohl es Gorbacsov.
> Mondhatnam ugy is, hogy pont az ellenkezojeben.
> 
> Pannon J.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Tisztelt Joe. Nem ertek egyet a kijelenteseddel hogy, "Egyszeruen egy provokato
r vagy"

You see Joe, an agent provocateur must have a reasonable level of intelligence.
 
Like it is expected that he should be able to differentiate, say between a male
 sheepdog and a sheep bent down to graze on juicy mountain grass.
 Now, I am not an expert but I am not convinced that our linguist has the "righ
t stuff"
to be a "provocator".    

His statement, "A Nemes Szekely Nemzet uj gazdat keres" probably is a sublimate
d wish to 
find someone he is looking for - A grade school teacher ? And look it his low 
self esteem expressed by "alattomos olah voltamra" One can not help but to feel
 pitty!
So please, do not call a "sinter". 
 
                                       Mark

In article > , 
writes:
>Nezd, azt nem irtam, hogy nem adnam a nevem a Berci altal javasolt
>akciohoz, csak azt, hogy szerintem remenytelen a dolog. 

Egyetertunk, noha multkor a szlovak-magyarra en szerveztem meg
az alairasi akciot. Ilyesminek akkor van -valami kis- ertelme,  ha
bekerul a napisajtoba.  Annak, hogy mi tudjuk egymasrol, meg egy
kulugyminiszteriumi hivatalnok is tud rola (aki kapta a levelet),
nem tul sok ertelmet latom. Tul keves meg a magyar internetezo ah-
hoz, hogy politikai jelentosege legyen a levelnek. De azert alairom, 
ha kulditek.

>hanem azert is,
>mert nem is erdeklik oket az erdelyi magyarok, akiket eloszeretettel
>romanoknak neveznek, s rosszindulattal vannak irantuk, ha latjak, hogy
>azok a menekultek MO-on rovid ido alatt valamire is viszik. 

Igazad van. Ket hete volt egy ilyen csunya inzultussorozat a Randin.
Az egyik magyarszapulo fickonak finoman felhivtam a figyelmet, hogy
a neve miatt nem lehet tobb, mint haromgeneracios magyar, ezen a vita-
szinten o is tamadhato a magyarsagaban.  Persze a RANDI-n en huztam
a rovidebbet, a temat kicenzuraztak.  A ficko igy foglalta ossze a vele-
menyet:

Zoltan Houdek wrote:
>- es igenis zavarnak a moszkvan a romanok
>- es igenis zavarnak a nyugatinal lejmolo romanok (magyarul lejmolnak)
>- es igenis zavar hogy egy szegeny orszag kormanya rajuk kolt
>- es igenis zavarnak a Kriminalisban lathato gyilkos "magyar
>  nemzetisegu roman allampolgarok"
>- es igenis zavarnak a magyarsagukra hivatkozva idearamlo romanok
>- es egyaltalan nem zavar hogy az ottaniakra haragitjuk a roman
>  kormanyt, de egyes elvakult erdely-maniasokkal (akik egyenesen
>  nagymagyarorszag visszaallitasaert erolkodnek) szemben ez az
>  egyetlen erv.

Szoval tenyleg ez van.  Erdelyi magyar == Roman.

>Szerintem Horn & Co. nagyon is tisztaban van valasztoik ezen gyalazatos
>nemzettudataval,

Azert sem akarok nagyon peticiozgatni, mert a fentemlitett urakat
nem (politikai) ellenfelnek, hanem ellensegnek tartom.  De ha level-
bombat kuldenenk...

Tamas