In article >, 
 says...
>
>Wally Keeler > wrote:
 says...
>>>>> You're just being szar-kasztik.
>>>>
>>>>Now you're talking!
>>>>That's a good one.
>>>
>>> I'll be darned! I did not expect to please you this e-silly.
>>
>>Creativity and/or wordplay is to be applauded whenever it manifests
>>itself.
>
>Remember ember, that's only your v-ewe,
>Someone else sometime might even scorne you.
>I warn you, you borju'.  (Don't tell me I bore you.)
>Ooooooh.

szar-kasztik was good,
but now you have sunk into your familiar mediocrity.

In article >,
Poetician1 > wrote:
>In article >, 
 says...
>>
>>Wally Keeler > wrote:
 says...
>>>>>> You're just being szar-kasztik.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now you're talking!
>>>>>That's a good one.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be darned! I did not expect to please you this e-silly.
>>>
>>>Creativity and/or wordplay is to be applauded whenever it manifests
>>>itself.
>>
>>Remember ember, that's only your v-ewe,
>>Someone else sometime might even scorne you.
>>I warn you, you borju'.  (Don't tell me I bore you.)
>>Ooooooh.
>
>szar-kasztik was good,
>but now you have sunk into your familiar mediocrity.
>

I disagree. I think "szar-kasztik" was the cheapest of these. Maybe it was just
closest to your level.
However it would scare me to death (half only) if we agreed on something.
GK

> From  Wed Oct 16 13:16:31 EDT 1996
> My verbal brilliance is far in excess of what your  
> twisted knot of grey enema hose can produce 

In your gray dreams bozo. Your obsession of intentionally misspelling  
words is annoying at best, but far from brilliant. 

> Gyorgy Kovacs, who considers everyone on scm to be incredibly stupid,  

Nonsense. Just you Wally. 


> ||And the only appropoetic answer: 
> ||             ^^^^^^^^^^^\ 
> ||                         \ For the new ones: I borrowed that from  
.. ||                          \ Wally because he keeps asking for it. 
>  
> Pseudo-poet replies: 
> > Actually you expoetriated it from Wally. 
>  
> Gyorgy Kovacs has to repeat because Wally is unable to get it: 
> ||No, I borrowed it from you. You're hallucinating again. 
>  
> Nope. Borrowing includes consent from the party from which the item  
> was borrowed. You neither asked, nor was permission given to you. If 
> you had asked I would have consented.  

This is public domain, and I named my source. Quit whining. Get a patent  
if you are so darn picky. 

>  
Wally’s favorite new word: 
> >    DOGGEREL 
>  
He can’t stand it, because: 
> ||Still beats the hell out of your  'Wordscrapers'. 
And also:
> ||No curse words, not good for Wally. I understand. 
>  

Further Wally whimpers
> That's why my poetry is published, and why your mediocre  
> theories of what is or is not poetry is not published.  

You keep referring to your published ‘poetry’. Yet here you just 
showcase your stupidity and bad manners. Well, have it your way. 
> ||Your creativity is not convincing, so you can quit bragging about it  
>  
> Pseudo-poet tries to sound cool: 
> > I think a b-anal would be more appropoetic justice. 

Here’s a Wally pleaser: Do you need SEGGitse’g with you anality 
obsession?

>  I'm published and you're not. 

Irrelevant. And I don't give a damn. Frankly.

In article >,
 (Poetician1) wrote:

> In article >, 
>  says...
> >> > You make the claim that the targetting exceeds the higher crime rate. 
> >> > Present the evidence. A naked claim without evidence to back it up is 
> >> > worthless. It does not good against racists and it provides an opening 
> 
> Wally replies: 
> >> You make the claim that the Gypsy community has a higher crime rate.
> >> Present the evidence. 
> 
> dbrutus excuses himself:
> >I'm not going to start blindly researching facts to fit your fancy, 
> >Set a reasonable standard for evidence and I will try to get it for you if 
> >it exists. My nose tells me that the higher crime rate exists ...

<collection of crime incidents deleted for irrelevancy to the point> 

Hello Wally, I've asked at least a dozen times so far and yet no direct 
response from you. You've presented advocacy groups and their reports. 
It's some pretty heady stuff. Yet it doesn't address the point of whether 
or not gypsies in Romania have a higher, the same, or a lower crime rate 
than ethnic romanians. I started off with the position that Romanian law 
enforcement is in need of an increased respect for the rights of suspects. 
I still maintain that. You keep dancing around the point. Can't we find 
some neutral observer's statistics on crime rate and take that raw data 
to come to our own conclusions? I'm not sure that the gypsies have such 
a special problem over any other ethnicity in identical circumstances. 
I could quite possibly be wrong. I'm willing to change my position based 
on better facts but I'm not willing to continue a conversation when 
everything has to be conclusion with no independent investigation and 
anybody who glances either to the left or to the right for an alternate 
explanation than racism must be an enemy. 

DB

-- 
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Peller Zoltan > wrote:
>Egy idoben en is sokat hasznaltam karakteres terminal-emulatort. 
>A megoldas a vt220 volt, nagyon szepen megjelentek az ekezetek dos alatt.
>(Persze valahol meg azt is meg kellett mondanom, hogy 8 bites 
>karakterkeszletet kezeljen, 8 bites atvitelt hasznaljon stb)

Kosz a tippet; majd utananezek vajon a "host" gep hasznalja-e.
Ettol fuggetlenul meg mindig fenmaradt az ekezetes betuk beutesenek
komplikaltsaga, ami lelassitja az irast egy QWERTY rendszeru
klaviaturan. Viszont ha lenne egy igazi magyar kiosztasu keyboard-om ...

Pannon J.

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From: 
Newsgroups: alt.2600.hackerz
Subject: This is TOO good to be true MONEY!!
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:19:21 GMT
Organization: Internet Access Group, Orlando, Florida
Message-ID: >

***********************************************************************This
 works, I did it and have already received  $1680.00 
************************************************************************
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 Let's review the reasons why you should do this:  The only cost factors are
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 money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list
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 If you can UUE encode the file when uploading,  that will make it easier for
 the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive.  That
 way they get a copy of the article right on theircomputer without hassles of
 viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter the file
 type, leave it as an MS-DOS Textfile. The best test is to be able to view 
this file using Microsoft'sNotepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95
.. If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right
 when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business!5.  If you need help
 uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a 
newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is
 and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP.I would try to describe how to do it
 but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly
 different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file.  Just ask for
 help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you
 simplyselect 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse'to go 
look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it and choose 
'OK'.  Place a one line statement in the main body sectionof the message post
 screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in 
your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever.Just make sure it represents its
 true feasibility, NOT somethinglike..."Get one million dollars flooding in
 your mailbox in two days!"You'll never get ANY responses! 6.  And this is 
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!  Expect to see a little money start totrickle in around 2 weeks, but AT
 ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORMWILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do
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) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!!7.  So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS
 AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that
 special person in your life (or the one you want in your life)  a gift
 they'll never forget.  ENJOY LIFE!8.  Now when you get low on this money
 supply,  simply re-activatethis file again; Reposting it in the old places
 where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. 
Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you
 ever needcash.  THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME
 AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED!  NOW GIVE IT A THOUGHT!!! this will 
only cost you 5 bucks at the MOST!!!!! and look what you can get in return...
... We have all sent away for stuff and schemes but this is a form of legal 
chain and it works!!!! It can't help but work. I have already sent out 5 
bucks and the money has started to roll in already! All I got to say at this
 point is HOLY SHIT!!! IT works!!!!***Remember send a buck to everyone on
 this list and repost the list with your name at the end and move the names 
up one position and repost!!! take the first one off the list of course...
****ONE MORE THING!!!! I have also been thinking 'Bout this for a while,will
it work?  nahh! just another get rich scheme... but when I thought of what I
 read, it made sense... how could it not work. everyone can afford 5 bucks!
             GET THE ENVELOPES AND DO IT NOW!!
_____________________________________________________________________________
YOU HAVE TO BE INSANE NOT TO DO THIS, I WAS AS SKEPTAL AS YOU BUT I FIGURED 
IT'S ONLY 5 BUCKS WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOOSE!!  WHEN I FIRST SAW THE MONEY
 COMMING IN I THOUGHT OH MY GOD!!!!!! IT WORKED!!!!! PLEASE JUST GIVE IT A 
TRY
_____________________________________________________________________________


*****************************************************************************

*******THE  NAMES LIST       THE NAMES LIST      THE NAME LIST***************
 *** HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!!***  
1. Bill Wolff*     1948 Fireside Court*     Casselbery, Fla 32707**  
2. Paul Ngyen*    35 S. 4th Street*     San-Jose, Ca. 95112**  
3. Shane Uhlir*     121 S. Beltwoods Dr.*     Desoto, Tx. 75115** 
4. Dan F. Levsque*    P.O. Box 1136*    Mattawa Ont. Canada POH-1VO** 
5. Josh Kuzma*     885 Valley Rd.*     Ambridge, Pa. 15003**
***********************************************************************
This works, I did it and have already received  $1,680.00 
***********************************************************************
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Wally, I told you twicew already to keep your junk out of my mailbox if you 
litter the newsgroup with it anyway. I guess you can't read either.

In article >,
Poetician1 > wrote:
>I can pump out 16.5 millions pixels of technicolour.

You probably could. That will still keep you being a looser.

>Poetician1 states the fact:
>>>  I'm published and you're not.
>
>>Irrelevant. And I don't give a damn. Frankly.
>
>Nevertheless, I'm published and your IMPOETENT!

The fact that you are published does not make you right. The fact that you 
published does not give you the right to lie. Or judge. But if that turns you 
on, fine. I still don't give a damn.
In meantime make up your mind if you want to post or e-mail me. I'd prefer the
later, because it takes too much space in the newsgroup to point out what a
concecited, perky, obtuse pseudo-poet you are.
For the moment, I'm done with you, for the benefit of the newsgroup.
Ciao, Dr Moron,
GK

On Tuedsay, October 8, 1996, Morgoth wrote:
[snip, snip]
> Is God Dead? Jesus is rooming in Pasadena with Mary Magdalene,
> just rooming. Notice in the Equirer!?
> Die Whales?
> Sex Pistols will not rise again?
> What can I whine about?
> What if Stalin was in love with .....
> Mission Impossible as a James Bond movie? What if?
> How many Klingons DOES it take to screw in a light bulb?
[snip, snip--okay, let me go get the chain saw]

	What is this juvenile waste of time and bandwidth?  Are you high?

Matt Stevens
(from soc.history.what-if, one of the 44 newsgroups clogged with this
swill.)

CLARY Olivier > wrote:
>
>A gyanús múltjára gondolsz? Erről ezt találtam:
>        http://www.nepszabadsag.hu/Scripts/get_doc.idc?ID=4585&iid=145
>---------------------- idézet eleje ----------------------
>[...] a büntetőügyet a parlament hétfői ülésén említette Deutsch Tamás
>képviselő. E dokumentumok szerint 1986. május 16-án egy magánszemély
>meghatalmazta Tocsikot egy budapesti, XIII., Rajk László utcai egyszoba
>összkomfortos öröklakás eladásával. [...] Egy 1988 márciusában kelt, a

Kosz, erre is, de elsosrban arra, hogy hogyan is kerult olyan
kulcspozicioba valaki, aki allitolag nem is igazan ugyved.  Gyanitom,
hogy a holgy valaki fontos lehetett a partallami idokben, de eddig errol
semmit sem hallani. Sot, bizonyos hiradasok tovabbra is ugyvednonek
titulaljak.  Az ilyesmire itt azt mondanak, hogy she must have had a lot
of clout.  Akarcsak Zemplenyi urnak, akit afele "untouchable"-kent
kezelnek.  Vajh miert?

Pannon J.

The Aratas Hungarian Dancers present:

             A Hungarian Dance Workshop and Ta'ncha'z with
                             Zolta'n Nagy
                Portland, Oregon -- November 16, 1996

Join us for a full day workshop of dancing with Zolta'n Nagy, from
Budapest, Hungary.  Zolta'n will be teaching dances from Mezo"ko:lpe'ny
in Mures (Maros) County of western Sze'ke'lyfo:ld in Transylvania
(Erde'ly), Rumania.  Zolta'n is an excellent dance teacher and currently
director of the Barto'k Dance Ensemble in Budapest. His biography can be
found at <http://www.datanet.hu/tanchaz/nzj.htm>;.

There will be two three-hour workshops with a ta'ncha'z (dance house or
dance party) in the evening.  The ta'ncha'z will highlight the music of
the Ne'vtelen Egyu:ttes from Seattle, featuring featuring Jerry Muhasky,
violin; Mark Lester, kontra and violin; Kathleen Hunt, bass and prim;
and Gary Fadling, bass and u:to"gardon.  Rumors are strong that they
will also have a special guest singer from Los Angeles.

Schedule:
  Saturday, November 16, 1996
    8:30 - 9:00 AM      Registration/warmups
    9:00 AM - Noon      Workshop with Zolta'n Nagy
    2:00 - 5:00 PM      Workshop with Zolta'n Nagy
    8:00 - Midnight     Ta'ncha'z with Ne'vtelen Egu:ttes

Fees:
  Complete Package      $25
  Individual Workshops  $10
  Evening Ta'ncha'z     $7

All events will be held at 7045 S.W. Taylors Ferry Road, Portland,
Oregon (a.k.a. "The Chalet").  A paper flyer for the workshop has a map
and instructions on how to find this location.  No alcohol is allowed on
the premises.  Off-street parking is limited, car-pooling is encouraged.

For more information call Larry or Karen at 503-245-0372, or send email
to "".

Also, please call or send email if you want to be on our mailing list
for future Hungarian dance events.