In article >  (J
anos Szamosfalvi) writes:
>Joseph Soter ) wrote:
>: I'm looking for information regarding the meaning and root of my
>: Hungarian family name:   Soter
>Are you sure that it wasn't So"te'r or something else originally?
>Soter sounds un-Hungarian to me. 

There was also Zsoter Andras on HIX/TIPP, now we do not hear much about
him (he wrote from Hong Kong).
-- Olivier

I am a recent college graduate who will be going to Budapest in September 
to live and work there for a year.  Unfortunately, I don't yet have a job 
or a place to live.  The purpose of this post is not to solicit jobs 
(although, hey, if anyone wants to offer one... :)  but rather to ask for 
advice and suggestions on a couple things:

1) Job stuff--where to look, what type of jobs to look for (teaching 
English or other stuff), etc.  I should mention that while I have been 
studying Hungarian for the last couple months, my language skills are 
still rather limited.  Also, I have a lot of experience with computers, 
especially desktop publishing and graphics.  Anyone know of the prospects 
in that field?

2) Apartment stuff--where to look, how to get a roommate (either American 
or Hungarian), what I can expect to pay.

3) A good, cheap place to stay (ie, hostel) when I first arrive, until I 
can find an apartment.

4) I have looked at the Hungarian Web sites, and haven't found much to 
help me with the above issues.  Am I not looking in the right places (I 
know, for example, that the Czech homepage has a classifieds section.  
Anything similar on the Hungarian page?)

ANY information or advice you can offer would be most appreciated.  
Please respond to this account ).  Thanks.

Greg Horowitz

WHAT A LOSER

Idos-nyugdijas- orvos- fogorvos Svedorszagban ( Stockholm) keres
levelezopartnert budapesten.
evente hazalatogatok- iden szeptember vegen, de ez nem jelenti azt,
hogy szemelyes kapcsolat szukseges- termeszetesen egy egyszeri kavazas
nem art- hogy megismerje az ember levelezopartneret,.
Dr. Georg Fischer ( Gyuri )

WHAT A LOSER

 wrote:
>A few years back, of all places MEXICO, I met my first woman
>from Hungary!!!
>
>I won' t go into it, as the memories will always be there
>until my last breath...
>
>Anyway..
>
>The reason I am here is to perhaps repeat it with another
>woman from your wonderful country....
>
>Any interests should contact me at
>


WHAT A LOSER, WHAT SORT OF AN IDIOT WOULD POST CRAP SUCH AS THIS ON THIS 
NEWSGROUP.
  TRY FINDING YOURSELF A WOMAN SOMEHOW ELSE, OR IS THAT TOO HARD FOR YOU.
TO TOP IT ALL OFF, NO-ONE CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BOAST OF YOUR 
ACHIEVEMENTS TO YOUR MATES IN THE PUB, NOT ON THIS NEWSGROUP.

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FORMER COMMUNIST LEADER CHARGED AGAIN OVER 1968 INVASION. Milos Jakes,
former General Secretary of the Czechoslovak Communist Party (KSC), on
15 August was charged for the second time with treason over the 1968
Warsaw Pact invasion of the country. Jakes confirmed to Czech media that
he received the charges from the Office for the Documentation and
Investigation of Crimes of Communism. The original charges against Jakes
and nine other former leading Communist functionaries were dismissed by
a state attorney as being wrongly formulated. They were redrafted
following a meeting between the heads of the Office and the attorney.
Jakes called the new charges more concise and emphatic than the earlier
ones but said they contained no concrete details. Others originally
charged with Jakes for plotting to set up a shadow government to justify
the invasion said they had not yet been served with any new charges. --
Steve Kettle, OMRI, Inc.

ECONOMIC NEWS FROM HUNGARY. The country's Central Statistical Office
announced on 15 August that Hungarian consumer prices rose by 0.9% in
July from June and by 27.8% in comparison with July last year,
international media report. Also on the 15th, Privatization Minister
Tamas Suchman told journalists in Budapest that the European Bank for
Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) is considering an investment of
$300 million in Hungarian privatization, especially in the energy
sector. -- Jiri Pehe, OMRI, Inc.

CEFTA AGRICULTURE MINISTERS MEET IN SLOVAKIA. Agriculture ministers from
Slovenia and the four member countries of the Central European Free
Trade Agreement (CEFTA) held a two-day working meeting on 14-15 August.
In Bratislava they discussed decreasing customs tariffs on more than 630
agricultural and food commodities. The commodities were divided into
three categories: the first group including coffee, cocoa and tea will
be duty free from January 1996, the second group of 21 products
(including poultry, dried milk, hops, and sugar) will have low custom
tariffs, while the third group (including "strategic" commodities such
as milk, pork, and cattle) is more controversial. Negotiations are not
yet finished, but when completed, the proposal will be discussed by the
countries' prime ministers in the Czech town of Brno, TASR and
Hospodarske noviny report. -- Sharon Fisher, OMRI, Inc.

BOSNIAN GOVERNMENT REJECTS U.S. PARTITION PLAN . . . U.S. Undersecretary
of State Richard Holbrooke continues to travel around the former
Yugoslavia with what a State Department spokesman called "fresh ideas."
The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on 16 August wrote that Holbrooke's
package is a partition plan despite all assurances to the contrary, and
the Wall Street Journal added that details are deliberately being kept
vague and out of the public eye so that Washington can distance itself
from the project if it proves unworkable. The International Herald
Tribune said that "fog" is preventing Holbrooke from going to Sarajevo
for two or three days. Bosnia's ambassador to Switzerland said that the
plan "is only to buy time for the Serbs. We will never trade with our
country." The project reportedly would require the government to swap
Gorazde for land around Sarajevo. -- Patrick Moore, OMRI, Inc.

ROMANIAN CONSTITUTIONAL COURT ON HDFR INITIATIVE. Romanian media
reported on 15 August that the Constitutional Court has given the green
light for parliamentary debates on a draft law for education in minority
languages. The draft was worked out by the Hungarian Democratic
Federation of Romania, the main political organization of the country's
large Hungarian minority. The HDFR, which collected nearly 500,000
signatures in favor of its legislative initiative, has been among the
strongest opponents of a new education law that was recently adopted by
the Romanian parliament. The HDFR considers that law as discriminating
against ethnic minorities. The government repeatedly rejected the
accusations. -- Dan Ionescu, OMRI, Inc.

FSB ACCUSES FRED CUNY OF SPYING. An unnamed senior official in the
Federal Security Service (FSB) claimed that U.S. aid worker Fred Cuny,
missing in Chechnya since April, is alive and working for Chechen
President Dzhokhar Dudaev as a member of the U.S. security services,
Russian sources including Pravda and Interfax reported on 15 August.
U.S. State Department representative David Johnson dismissed the
allegations as "groundless," ITAR-TASS reported. The State Department
said it has no concrete information on Cuny's whereabouts. He
disappeared while working on a medical relief program sponsored by the
Soros Foundation. -- Robert Orttung, OMRI, Inc.

FOREIGN MINISTRY CRITICIZES U.S. PEACE PROPOSAL. Russia welcomes recent
U.S. efforts to promote a political settlement in the former Yugoslavia,
but U.S. and Russian approaches to a resolution of the conflict "do not
correspond in all respects," Mikhail Demurin, a spokesman for the
Russian Foreign Ministry, told ITAR-TASS on 15 August. Russia considers
the "military aspects" of the latest U.S. proposals, which Russian
Foreign Minister Andrei Kozyrev recently discussed with U.S. National
Security Adviser Anthony Lake, as "unacceptable," Demurin noted. He also
reiterated Moscow's view that lifting UN sanctions against rump
Yugoslavia would be an important step towards resolving the conflict, a
view the U.S. does not share. The same day, President Boris Yeltsin sent
a letter to Arab leaders in which he denied that race or religion play a
role in Russian policy on the Yugoslav conflict. Arab nations have
frequently expressed concern that Russia favors the Orthodox Serbs in
their conflict with the Bosnian Muslims. -- Scott Parrish, OMRI, Inc.

RUSSIA WILL SIGN TEST BAN TREATY. In response to U.S. President Bill
Clinton's recent announcement that his country will support a
comprehensive ban of all nuclear tests, Russian Foreign Ministry
spokesman Mikhail Demurin announced on 15 August that Russia would also
sign such an agreement, provided it is "non-discriminatory," Russian and
Western agencies reported. Demurin added, however, that details of a
Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) that would allow signatory states
to assure the reliability of their nuclear arsenals after the ban takes
effect are still outstanding. The treaty is expected to be concluded in
1996. -- Scott Parrish, OMRI, Inc.

NEW STEALTH FIGHTER TO BE SHOWN. The prototype of a new MiG "stealth"
fighter will be demonstrated for the first time at the upcoming Moscow
Air Show, RIA reported on 15 August. The aircraft, said to carry the
factory name "Article 1/44" was reported to have "specially arranged
nozzles to enable it to hover over a target for pinpoint strike
accuracy." Mikoyan is known to have been working on a stealth aircraft
comparable to the U.S. F-22. Western analysts had referred to it as the
I-42. -- Doug Clarke, OMRI, Inc.

$190 MILLION SPACE DEAL SIGNED. Russia's Khrunichev Space Center and
U.S. Boeing Defense and Space Group signed a $190 million deal on 15
August to develop and launch the first module of a new international
space station, Russian and Western agencies reported the same day. The
module, known as a Functional Energy Block, will be the first component
of the $30 billion Alpha space station, the world's first international
high-tech orbital laboratory and the future replacement for Russia's Mir
Station. The 200-ton, six-man Alpha space laboratory will consist of
several modules and is scheduled for completion by the year 2001. Boeing
will provide the $190 million required for Khrunichev to develop and
manufacture one block for launching. -- Thomas Sigel, OMRI, Inc.
  
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[As of 1200 CET]
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In article >,
Radovan Cerny > wrote:
>In article >  (Ross Hedvi
cek) writes:
[...]
>
>>In article >  (Leszek Andrze
j
>>Kleczkowski) writes:
[...]
>>>I wonder how beneficial to the CEFTA ideals will be the decision of the 
>>>Czech Republic to impose daily allowance on Polish turists.  Heard that 
>>>Polish authorities contemplate (and justly so) similar sanctions against the
 
>>>Czechs.  Does anybody know the true rationale behind the Czech 
>>>authorities decision??
[...]

>
>>The same trick was used for years during communist rule. Remember? 
>>They'rrreeee baaaaaaaaacck!
[...]
>
>The same trick is used by several West-European countries (I mean daily 
>allowance). 
>They'rrreeeee baaaaaaaaaaacck everywheeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeeee!
>

Could you be a bit more informative?

* Which countries?
* What is the sum they require you to prove you have?
* How do they force you to spend it?
  (In Eastern Europe they did this by requiring people to exchange the money
   at the border, and by forbidding people to import or export the national
   valuta.)

Notice that only the third point amounts to the system formerly used
in Eastern-European countries. 

The second point only implements regulation to keep beggars out.

>  Radovan Cerny

Yours,

	Gertjan Akkerman (  )

In article >,  (Jerry Ostrows
ki) writes:

|> 	One of the purposes of creating CEFTA has been making the
|> Central European economies better prepared for the competitive
|> environment of EU when their time for membership comes.  Also, another
|> idea was so called 'collective bargaining' in Poland's, Hungary's,
|> Czech
|> Republic's and Slovakia's persuits for EU membership.
|> 	Unfortunately the latter one did not work.  Czech government  was
|> the first to oppose the collective bargaining idea and has opted for
|> individual efforts to join the rich '15' ('12' in 1992).  I don't know
|> the reasons for this policy (if someone does, please post it) but
|> having read Leszek Kleczkowski's message, it looks to me that some
|> officials in the Czech government have a problem with free trade and
|> maybe with CEFTA in
|> general.

Keep in mind that things that are ``Free Trade Agreements'' in name are
often ``Managed Trade Agreements'' in fact.  I don't know the details
of CEFTA, but I have my suspicions that it is more like the latter.

Back in the days when Hungary was the `darling' of the west and the
most advanced in Economic reforms, people there thought that a go it
along strategy would be the best for Hungary.  Now it is the Czechs turn,
while Hungarly lags well behind Bohemia and Poland in many respects.
I don't think that anyone actually believed that Visagrad pact to seek
common joining of the EU (then EC) would hold for very long, but it
was, and still is, a useful pretense, since it does limit the extent
to which the countries undermine each others efforts.

|> 	IMHO, Central European states would have more "muscle" if they
|> pooled together and negotiated with EU as an economic _bloc_ with its
|> combined population of over 66 mln people (including Slovenia) rather
|> than from position of a "banana republic'.

This is true, but also a risky road to take.  If the block were a fortress
type or something that would violate the spirit of GATT, then it could
be used by those EU members who want the EU to be the same to create
a world of trading blocks.  A trade block should only be set up, if
it is clearly done so with the goal of expanding global free trade,
otherwise it is only increasing the divide.

|> So far there've been some
|> statements made by a bunch of politicians from EU countries - the
|> strongest one yet from Germany - supporting CEFTA countries membership
|> in EU but so far, there has been no _firm_ timetable for their
|> admission to the Union.

Germany and England more or less believe in free trade and
eastward expansion of the Union, the poorer EU countries are
clearly against CE countries joining, and France wants more
control over a smaller Union.  I am pessimistic, but not so
pessimistic that I would suggest a change in policy on the CE
countries' parts.  That is Poland, Bohemia, Hungary, and I
suppose Slovakia, should contineu to politely jump through
the hoops that the EU demands they do without offering
anything in return.  In many (but far from all) cases, those
hoops can be good policies on their own.

-jeff

-- 
Jeffrey Goldberg
    Email:	
    WWW:	<http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/>;

>>Could you be a bit more informative?

>>* Which countries?
>>* What is the sum they require you to prove you have?
>>* How do they force you to spend it?
>>  (In Eastern Europe they did this by requiring people to exchange the money
>>   at the border, and by forbidding people to import or export the national
>>   valuta.)


>>>  Radovan Cerny

>>Yours,

>>        Gertjan Akkerman (  )

>

I have got some more informations:
- The daily allowance is in fact required by almost all Western Europe 
countries. But it is DAILY ALLOWANCE, which is in the range 10 $ per day. So 
you can allways say that you are coming for one day. And it is never required 
in practise. But the laws exist.
- The problem with the Czech version is that your have to prove the equivalent 
of about 300 $ and it doesn't matter if you come for one or thirty days. So 
you can imagine the paradox of a Polish family with two children travelling 
from Cziesin to Bratislava to visit friends for a weekend. They have to show 
the equivalent of 1200 $.

The daily allowance which is required by other countries is a small fraction 
of an avarage sallery in that country. The sum which is required by Czech 
customs is EQUAL to an avarage sallery in CR. This is the problem with that 
law. Not the law itself.



  Radovan Cerny

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 (Wally Keeler) wrote:
     >>Perhaps this is why I identify with the persecution of the Roma. 
     >>Their nomadic way of life, their singing, fighting, poetry, dancing, 
     >>their involvment with life itself, and their resistence to the 
     >>assimilation to the factory floor, to the inhuman conformity of 
     >>middle class life and technology, to live in a slot on a shelf in a 
     >>high-rise building like an anonymous drone. This is not civilization. 
     >>This is not life. It is death. And I join those who with a bit of 
     >>stealth liberated the living decorations of Schobrun castle, cooked 
     >>up a satisfying meal and sang and danced well into the night. That's 
     >>living. And I throw it into the faces of the half-dead, the 
     >>dime-a-million clone drones who can't tolorate such exuberance. 
     >>Cemetaries are pavilions for dancing. Dance on.
     
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     
On 10 Aug 1995 cristian 
>resistance is futile * you will be assimilated * resistance is futile 
>you will be assimilated * resistance is futile * you will be assimilated
>* resistance is futile * you will be ass
>-the adjuster 

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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-the defiant one
-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

On 10 Aug 1995 (cristian)  droned:
>resistance is futile * you will be assimilated * resistance is futile 
>you will be assimilated * resistance is futile * you will be assimilated
>* resistance is futile * you will be ass
>-the adjuster 

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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How many times do I have to tell you dictatorSHIT?
How many times do I have to tell you bureauCRAP?
How many times do I have to tell you GUVNOment?

Ang Paggawa Ng Tula Ay Lakas
Poesie Est Puissance
Poesia Es Poetencia
A Kolteszet A Lehetoseg
Die Moglichkeit Fur Gedichte
Gedichten is Poetenies
Poesia E Poetenza
Shaeri Blogiat Hai
Ea Peeces Inch deenamis
Poezija Je Duhovna Moc

-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

On 10 Aug 1995 (cristian)  droned:
>resistance is futile * you will be assimilated * resistance is futile 
>you will be assimilated * resistance is futile * you will be assimilated
>* resistance is futile * you will be ass
>-the adjuster

Holy Stake Drool, Fatman! Look! Up in the Sky. It's the Nam-Noise Namber
Fartcraft from little case cristian tomescaca. Look, he's armed with
Binary Digits, able to crush nambers with a single byte in 13
nonoseconds. (That's a no no) It's time to get out of here before
Futility overwhelms . . .  If only we could get hold of some POETency-
power . . .  Help . . . !!!!


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-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Jan Ilavsky ) wrote: : BTW, can anyone suggest
another, working (and OK with respect to Human rights) solution how to
stop the influx of : emmigrants through the Czech republic to Germany
(often and usually returned from Germany and then stuck in the : Czech
republic)? I am listening... 

Create better living conditions everywhere in the world.  One wave of the 
magic wand should do.

In article >  (Ross Hedvic
ek) writes:
>Xref: news.unige.ch soc.culture.polish:32097 soc.culture.slovenia:2390
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>Newsgroups:
>soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.slovenia,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.magyar
,s
>oc.culture.czecho-slovak
>Subject: Re: More Countries May Soon Join CEFTA
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>In article >  (Leszek Andrzej
>Kleczkowski) writes:
>>From:  (Leszek Andrzej Kleczkowski)
>>Subject: Re: More Countries May Soon Join CEFTA
>>Date: 13 Aug 1995 10:41:04 GMT

>>Jerry Ostrowski ) wrote:
>>:       Per Reuters, CEFTA (Central European Free Trade Agreement) may
>>: soon be modified to allow admission of a new member - Slovenia.  
>>: CEFTA was established by Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia
>>: in 1992 to promote free trade among the member countries by eliminating
>>: or reducing tariff duties.  Apart from Slovenia - Romania, Lithuania,
>>: Latvia and Estonia have expressed their interest in joining the
>>: organization.
>>:        Poland's trade with the other CEFTA countries grew to
>>: US$1.7 billion last year from US$1.3 in 1992. In the first five months
>>: of 1995 it totalled already more than US$1 billion.

>>I wonder how beneficial to the CEFTA ideals will be the decision of the 
>>Czech Republic to impose daily allowance on Polish turists.  Heard that 
>>Polish authorities contemplate (and justly so) similar sanctions against the 
>>Czechs.  Does anybody know the true rationale behind the Czech 
>>authorities decision??

>>Leszek

>True rationale seems to be:

>1) eliminate influx of insolvent people from the East, Far East and Middle 
>East.

>2) Rip off people from the West a little more by ordering them to exchange 
>Western currency right on the border (I am pretty sure at a exchange rate not 
>tooooo gooood for tourist).

>The same trick was used for years during communist rule. Remember? 
>They'rrreeee baaaaaaaaacck!

>Rosta        
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>"I ain't gonna be, I ain't gonna be no fool no more."
>                           John Lee Hooker - Wasted Years
>                    


The same trick is used by several West-European countries (I mean daily 
allowance). 
They'rrreeeee baaaaaaaaaaacck everywheeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeeee!



  Radovan Cerny

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On 10 Aug 1995 (cristian)  droned:
>resistance is futile * you will be assimilated * resistance is futile 
>you will be assimilated * resistance is futile * you will be assimilated
>* resistance is futile * you will be ass
>-the adjuster 

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On 10 Aug 1995 (cristian)  droned:
>resistance is futile * you will be assimilated * resistance is futile 
>you will be assimilated * resistance is futile * you will be assimilated
>* resistance is futile * you will be ass
>-the adjuster 

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