Kedves TIPP-elok!

Sogornom megkert, hogy az alabbi egyetemekrol "tudjak meg, amennyit csak
lehet". Kommunikacio szakra szeretne jelentkezni.

     1. University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, PA
     2. Harvard & Radcliffe, MA
     3. Yale, CT
     4. Stanford, CA
     5. University of Rochester, NY
     6. St. Bonaventure
     7. Susquehanna University
     8. Occidental College, CA
     9. Columbia College - Hollywood, CA

Termeszetesen utanajarok magam, csupan az elkezdeshez kernek segitseget...
(azert egyeb tippek elol sem terek ki :-)

 - Szeretnem megtudni a fenti egyetemek, illetve az "information office",
   postacimet, esetleg e-mail cimet, ha van ilyen.

 - Van-e barmifele on-line elerheto (telnet, ftp, e-mail) informacio ezekrol az
   egyetemekrol? Ha igen, hogyan lehet elerni ezeket?

Barmi segitseget elore is koszonok.

Bartfai Guszti
Wellington, Uj-Zeland

Kedves TIPPelok,

A HUNGARY Listserv -en jelent meg az alabbi keres amit a szerzo keresere hozok
at ide :

Richard> With the discussion of the difficulty of Hungarians living in
Richard> Hungary's neighboring countries, you may well identify with the
Richard> situation outlined below.

Richard> This summer we hosted a 17 year old Hungarian boy from Eastern
Richard> Slovakia, who came at our invitation and the request of his father to
Richard> improve his English language comprehension and to learn about America.
Richard> Needless to say, he was quite impressed with the United States during
Richard> his stay and his grasp of the English language improved considerably
Richard> during the two months he was here.

Richard> The young man is starting his final year at the gymnasium.  He had
Richard> planned to take finishing exams and enter the University of Kosice
Richard> next September to begin study toward a medical career.  However, he
Richard> has been worried about the impending breakup of Czechoslovakia and his
Richard> future as a member of the Hungarian minority as nationalistic tensions
Richard> increase in Slovakia.  He believed he and his parents could not afford
Richard> American college tuitions because, even though both his father and
Richard> mother are medical doctors, their combined wages would be considered
Richard> at the poverty level in the United States.

Richard> While in New York, he learned about college scholarships and became
Richard> interested in the possibility of studying at an American university
Richard> for at least part of his undergraduate years.  With the situation for
Richard> Hungarians in Slovakia today, he has become even more concerned about
Richard> his chances for higher education in Slovakia and the possibility of
Richard> attending an American school.

Richard> Some colleges have already mailed him brochures and admission forms.
Richard> Several of us, including Laszlo Pook who contributes to this
Richard> discussion group, have researched tuition-waiver and scholarship
Richard> opportunities at different schools.  The search has been long and
Richard> exhaustive and a few leads have turned up, but nothing that makes me
Richard> feel confident that we can fulfill this young Hungarian's aspiration
Richard> to study in the United States.

Richard> What we are asking from members of the forum is if you know of any
Richard> scholarships at your university or a neighboring university that could
Richard> provide this young man the opportunity to go to college in America.
Richard> He plans to follow in his parents' footsteps and pursue a career in
Richard> medicine, yet has indicated that if he were to study in the United
Richard> States, he would want to major in English and minor in either biology
Richard> or chemistry.  His grade point average at his gymnasium is 1.02 (where
Richard> 1 is excellent and 5 is failing, the common grading system in Europe).
Richard> Thanks to the time he spent in the United States and his effort since
Richard> returning to his hometown, he has good English comprehension and ought
Richard> not experience much difficulty adjusting to the language.  He has
Richard> learned and is fluent in Czech and Slovak, so he has had experience
Richard> conversing in other languages.

Richard> If you do know of any possible solutions to his dilemma or can offer
Richard> any leads that I can investigate further, please answer directly to my
Richard> email account >.  Feel free to copy the discussion
Richard> group if you feel obligated to do so.  If you need to reply in Magyar,
Richard> please send your reply to Laszlo Pook >.

Richard> Thank you very much for helping us out in giving this talented young
Richard> man the opportunity to further his education without the danger of
Richard> discrimination.

Richard>                                         Richard Budd
Richard>                                         Poughkeepsie, NY
Richard>                                         



Udvozlettel,
Hegedus Peter

A megtett kilometerre juto balesetek szamat tekintve tenyleg a repules
a legbiztonsagosabb kozlekedesi mod. Ennel jobb eredmenye csak az urhajozasnak
van :-).
Udv.,
Jeno

Miki irja:

> 6. miutan vegtelen sok csillag van, ennek a gombhejnak minden pontjara
> esik egy csillag, igy este sem lehetne sotet!

Pontosan vegtelennyit tevedtel!  ;)

Attol, hogy egy vegtelen sok szobaju szalloban vegtelen sok vendeg lakik,
meg lehet vegtelen sok ures szoba: 2n foglalt, 2n+1 szabad.

Szoval, vegtelen sok csillagnak egyaltalan nem kell betoltenie a gombot.
A megvilagitas erossege is erdekes lehet persze, dehat az porias fizika.

S.

Drusza baratomnak ket kerdesere valaszolok. Eloszor a csillagok miert nem
teremtenek ejjel (is) nappali vilagossagot (vagy valami hasonlo):
(1) Egyaltalan nem igaz, hogy geocentrikusan nezve a csillagok suruseg-eloszlasa
egyenletes s igy az emlitett go~mbi vetuletuk sem homogen.
(2) Az viszont igaz, hogy a csillagaszok altal felfedezett/azonositott csilla-
goknak csak egy ici pici hanyada bocsajt ki, vagy ver vissza fenyt.
Igy hat semmi ok nincs arra, hogy ne sotet legyen ejjel -- kulonben sem tudok
vilagosban aludni, de ezt az okomat nem hasznalom fel a helyzet vedelmeben.

A KLM jelentese kb. (ha jol emlekszem) Koninklijk Luchtvaart Maatschapij
(Kalman Laci majd kijavit, de most joggal...) A kozepso szonal hangsulyozom,
hogy NEM az angolhoz, hanem a nemethez hasonlo. A jelentese Kiralyi Legi-
forgalmi Tarsasag.

Bimbo Katinak: Nem-szabad (gender-free) modon "Ja filozofom". Viszont nem
csodalnam, ha az orosz feministak is ebredoben lennenek es a "mudrec"-bol
(= bolcs, filozofus-fele) csinaltak volna egy no"i megfelelot: mudrica, vagy
mudricska jon a nyelvemre -- bocs, jut az eszembe.

	F. Miki

A technikai csoda rendkivul egyszeru. Ugyanis Pozsony alatt a Duna
teljes egeszeben szlovak oldalon folyik. (ld. barmelyik terkep)

Udvozlettel: Veres Gabor

Tiszlelt nyelvszakertok!

Van e valami koze a "nokedli"-nek a "knedli"-hez, azonkivul,
hogy mindkettot hus melle eszik?

Elore is kossz,

Laci

Tudnatokk TIPPelni, hogy hogy lehet Daniabol Hollandiaba
utazni olcson (pl. busszal) oktober vege fele? Kosz, Peter

KLM = Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij

Az a gondolatmenet, amit Miki tegnap leirt, tudtommal egy Wilhelm
Olbers nevu nemet csillagasztol szarmazik, aki a 19. sz.-ban elt.
Legalabbis o publikalta eloszor ( Murphy szerint csak hallotta
valakitol :-) ), es rola neveztek el Olbers-paradoxonnak.
A gondolatmenet lenyeges eleme, hogy homogen univerzumot tetelez
fel, tehat minden egyes "eleg nagy" terreszben azonos valoszinuseggel
talalunk csillagokat. Ha pl. az osszes csillag (galaxis, galaxis-
halmaz, ki mit szeret) nehany egyenes vonal menten helyezkedik el,
akkor az egesz nem ervenyes.

A 19. sz.-ban az Olbers-paradoxont ugy ertelmeztek, mint a newtoni
gravitacioelmelet "fenyes" bizonyitekat, hiszen az utobbibol konnyen
kikovetkeztetheto, hogy a (vegtelen euklideszi) terben csak veges
mennyisegu anyag letezhet. Jelenleg az osrobbanas bizonyitekanak
tekintheto, hiszen az osszes csillag veges idovel ezelott keletkezett
es ezert a nagyon tavoliakat me'g nem latjuk (ettol me'g az univerzum
terbelileg lehet vegtelen vagy veges).
Minden (tev)eszmenek megvannak a maga bizonyitekai.
Udvozlettel: Csaba

A parizsi bekeszerzodes eloirta Magyarorszag szamara, hogy
Pozsonytol delre nehany szaz negyzetkilometer teruletet (harom
faluval egyutt) adjon at Csehszlovakianak. Ez 1947-ben (?)
meg is tortent. Azota azon a reszen a Duna csak szlovak teruleten
folyik. A C-valtozat szerinti elterelo gat(ak)at is ott epitettek
meg. Az eromu uzemvizcsatornaja eleve ugy volt tervezve, hogy
csak szlovak teruleten haladjon. Tehat a szlovakok elterelhetik
a Dunat ugy, hogy ebben magyar hatarorok nem akadalyozhatjak oket.
Azt hiszem, a nemzetkozi jogi / politikai / katonai vonatkozasok
inkabb a Szalonra / Forumra tartoznak.
Udvozlettel: Csaba

Elnezest, hogy most ennyi ido utan irok meg errol a temarol, csak eleinte
ugy tunik nem igazan vettem eszre, hogy ekkora diskurzus kerekedik ennek a
gepnek a lezuhanasabol, aztan meg egy bo" napig nem ment a gepunk. Ugyhogy
most Kalman Laci mai osszefoglalojahoz szeretnek nehany dolgot hozzafuzni.

>  o Az illeto3 El Al ge1p mind a ke1t hajto1mu3ve1t elvesztette,
>    ma1r meg is tala1lta1k o3ket, az egyikben mada1rmarade1kot
>    tala1ltak.
A ma reggeli Jerusalem Post ezzel megegyezik. Van azonban benne egy fel mondat
ami nekem teljesen kinai: azt mondjak, hogy okozhatta a 3. hajtomu leszakadasa
a 4. leszakadasat. Namost ezek a ketyere'k nagyjabol vizszintesen vannak
egymas mellett, ha leszakad az egyik az hogyan befolyasolhatja a masikat?
(Lehet, hogy keverem melyik a 3. es melyik a 4. de ez nem erdekes most.)
Ja, es a fekete dobozban levo info azt mutatta, hogy az elso hajtomu
leszakadasig minden tokeletesen mukodott...

>  o Senki nem ki1va1nta, hogy a pilo1ta o2ngyilkos legyen (pl. a
>    tengerbe sza1lljon), a ko2zve1leme1ny nem e1rti, hogy mie1rt
>    kellett ke1t ko2rt megtennie egy nagyva1ros felett ahelyett,
>    hogy egy nagy ko2rt tett volna.
A tengerbe szallasnal azert meg mindig tobb eselye lett volna a szemelyzetnek,
mint igy volt, a kerdes inkabb tenyleg az, miert nem probalt a kornyeken levo
tavon landolni. Persze nem tudom mekkora az a to, de tul pici nem lehet ha 10
napba kerult megtalalni benne az ominozus elsore leszakadt motort. A masik ami
meg talan befolyasolhatta az utvonalat az, hogy kenyszerleszallas elott ki
kell engedni az uzemenyag (kb. 100 tonna ha jol tudom) nagyjat - persze ezzel
nem tudom mennyire indokolhato a dolog, van-e arrafele amerre korozott szabad
terulet. Aztan az igazi baj eppen az lett, hogy az uzemanyag elhanyagolhatoan
kis reszetol tudtak csak megszabadulni a becsapodasig.

>  o Tova1bbra sem hoztak nyilva1nossa1gra hivatalos re1szleteket
>    arro1l, hogy milyen ta1rsalga1s folyt az ira1nyi1to1k e1s a
>    pilo1ta ko2zo2tt -- ha tudok valamit, majd megi1rom.
Ez meglep, mert par nappal az eset utan a J.Post cimlapjan volt vastag betuvel
a Reuter-tol atveve az iranyitotorony es a pilota tarsalgasanak kivonata. Nem
ertem, hogy ha nem akkor miert nem kozoltek ezt le Europaban? Mivel a dolog
egy bo hete tortent, igy nem mernek megeskudni mindenre, de azert talan van
amire jol emlekszem: Szoval tuz az egyik motorban (valaki emlitette, hogy a
motor leszakadasat a pilota szamara a rendszer mutathatja tuzkent), pilota
engedelyt ker a visszafordulasra. A repter kijelol egy kifutopalyat amit szel
szempontjabol a legkedvezobbnek tartanak (eros szel volt, ha jol hiszem
szellel szemben biztonsagos a leszallas? - javitsatok ki). Pilota masikat ker,
akkor azt irtak, hogy senki sem erti egyelore miert (talan, hogy megfelelo
oldalszel reszben potolja az aszimmetrikus nyomatekokat?). Aztan tuz a masik
motorban. (Ez valoszinu 'siman' leszakadhatott, mert a maradvanyokon nem
talaltak tuzre utalo nyomot - ezt a masodszorra leszakadt hajtomuvet talaltak
meg eloszor.) Ekkor a gep 1500 meter koruli magasagban volt - koroznie
kellett, hogy magassagot veszitsen es ki akarta engedni az uzemenyagat...
Aztan nem mukodnek a 'flaps'-ek; es ami a szamomra legmegdobbentobb volt,
hogy ez a jelentes szerint 3 perccel a becsapodas elott a pilota leadta a
toronynak, hogy 'going down'.

Tokeletes dilettanskent ebbol arra gondolok legkonyebben, hogy a becsapodas
elotti utolso valahany masodpercben talan teljesen iranyithatatlanna valhatott
a masina, hiszen nyilvan tudta a pilota, hogy ha mar egyszer lezuhan akkor ha
teheti ne egy lakohazra tegye... (A muki '64-ig katonai pilota volta azota
repult polgari gepeken, tehat nem volt igazan uj fiu a szakmaban.)

Udv,  L.Zoli

Levai Gezanak (kicsit kesve - lassan jut el hozzam a HIX): a
Christ Church College  tornyanak a harangja azert pont 101-et
kondul, mert amikor a kollegium megnyilt, eppen 101 diakja volt.
A Christ Church Catedral egyebkent a kollegium temploma.
    Udvozlettel: Jedlovszky Pali

Valahol hallottam egy fizikusrol, aki adott egy felso hatarerteket a foldi
populaciora. Ugy emlekszem a lenyege egy termodinamikai szamitas volt, tul sok
ember annyi hot termel, amit fizikailag lehetetlen eltavolitani a foldrol. A
szam viszont iszonyatosan nagy. (Kedvtelok utanaszamolhatnak, kozelito
ertekkent egy ember kb 100W hot termel)

Csanyi Gabor

Kedves Tippelok !

Tovabbra is (kitartoan) keresem azon volt, jelen, vagy jovobeli Szechenyi
osztondijasokat, akik az USA-ban, vagy barhol mashol tevekenykednek(tek).
Kozos problemaink megvitatasa nagy segitseg lenne szamomra.
Udvozlttel: 
Athens, Georgia, 1992 oktober 16, Simon Laci

Halmai Ga'bor KRITIKA 92/10 -beli cikke kinyerheto az alabbi paranccsal:

SENDDOC new szolas.szabadsag.Halmai.Gabor

Izelito:

nie." Az itelet lenyege, hogy egy magat demokratikusnak vallo kormanyzat nem
buntetheti meg biraloit meg maganszemelyek serelme cimen sem. A kozugyek szabad
vitatasahoz fuzodo erdek azt koveteli meg, hogy a kozles teljes alkotmanyos ve-
delmet elvezzen, vagis "elfojtasara nem jogosit fel sem tenybeli hiba, sem ser-
to tartalom, sem a ketto kevereke". Az azota New York Times-szabaly neven pol-

velt: "A szolasszabadsag mindenekelott azt jelenti, hogy a hatosag nincs felha-
talmazva arra, hogy a kijelentest mondanivaloja, eszmei, temaja vagy tartalma
alapjan korlatozza."

lenlegi buntetojogunkban egyebkent is eleg sok az olyan tenyallas, amelynek
alapjan valakit pusztan velemenyenek tartalma miatt bunozove lehet minositeni.
(Elgondolkodtunk-e mar azon, hogy az, aki masrol alkotott velemenyet becsulet-
serto modon juttatja kifejezesre, amellett, hogy embertarsai feltehetoen nem
tekintik "uriembernek" es hogy a sertest penztarcajanak kell bannia, miert len-
ne egyszersmind kriminalis szemelyiseg is?) Raadasul az 1986-os sajtotorveny

a pletykalap eseteben. Vagyis jogrendszerunk nemcsak a sajtoszabadsag utolagos
korlatozasat ismeri, hanem az elozetes cenzuranak ezt a sajatos fajtajat is.

luk odavitt keresztet. A huliganokat a varos egyik rendelete alapjan megvadol-
tak fajgyulolo velemeny szimbolikus formaban torteno kinyilvanitasaval, mivel
az ego kereszt koztudottan a fajuldozo Ku-Klux-Klan szimboluma. Az elsofoku bi-
rosag felmentette a vadlottakat, Minnesota allam Legfelsobb Birosaga viszont
elmarasztalta oket. Az Egyesult Allamok Legfelsobb Birosaganak a legkonzervati-
vabb alkotmanybiro hireben allo Scalia altal fogalmazott tobbsegi velemenye
szerint viszont a velemenynyilvanitasnak ezt a formajat vedi az alkotmany elso
kiegeszitese. (Elkepzelhetonek tartom, hogy Dworkint -- akinek nemreg jelent

Such Gyorgy es Vagvolgyi B. Andras beszamoloja eredetileg a heti Magyar Narancs
kereskedelmi forgalomba nem kerult probaszamaban jelent meg, es a KRITIKA
atvette. Cime: Letharc es oshaza.

Figyelem : A CIKK POLITIKAILAG ALLAST FOGLAL!!

Az erdeklodok a

SENDDOC new letharc.es.oshaza

paranccsal juthatnak hozza.

Well, friend, let me give you some information which you may not
know about.  It's a phenomenon which the social-psychology people
are quite familiar with, called 'Authority Response.'  I'll
give you the standard lecture (to the best of my memory) so that
everybody can participate.

[speaking to audience]

You and a stranger are selected from a group to help in an
experiment having to do with conditioned learning.  You both go
into a room with a Doctor and he asks you to select who will be
the Reciter and who will be the Memorizer.  You flip a coin and
you end up being the Reciter.  The Doctor then takes you both
into the next room, where there is a chair attached to
electrodes.  The Doctor asks the Memorizer to get in the chair
and asks you to help strap him in.

The Reciter seems nervous, but the Doctor reassures him that the
procedure is perfectly normal.  He simply has to repeat the words
the Reciter gives to him via the loudspeaker in order.  If he
fails to give them in the correct order then he will get a 'small
shock.'  The chair is just left over from a previous experiment.

So you strap him in and exit, closing the door, then follow the
Doctor to a small booth nearby.  Inside are a bunch of switches:


O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O   O   O   O   O   O   O   O

5 10 15 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 150 200 300 500 XXX XXX XXX   VOLTS

Mild            Strong          Painful    DANGER!



The Doctor turns on a microphone in front of you as you sit down
in the chair at the panel and asks if the Memorizer can hear him.
You hear the Memorizer's voice reply affirmative from the speaker
above.  The Doctor then gives you some pages containing lists of
10 random words.  He tells you that you are to recite the list to
the Memorizer and administer a shock when he makes a mistake,
increasing the voltage each time.

The Memorizer asks how high the voltage is.  The Doctor says not
to worry, the procedure 'won't cause any permanent damage.'  He
then tells you to commence.

Would you continue?

You began reciting the words, being careful to pronounce them
correctly, so that the Memorizer can hear them.  Even so, he
misses a couple, so you throw the switch.  You hear the Memorizer
laugh nervously while the Doctor writes something on his notepad.
The Doctor looks at you and says 'Continue.'

Do you continue?

The Memorizer makes several more mistakes, and you increase the
voltage each time.  By the time it gets up to 40 volts, he's
obviously under stress, stuttering and asking for more time.  You
turn to the Doctor, who is busy taking notes.  He indicates that
you should administer the next shock.

Do you continue?

By the time the voltage gets up to 80, the Memorizer begins
complaining loudly, begging that the experiment be discontinued.
The Doctor continues taking notes and calmly tells you to continue.

Do you do as he says?

After 100 volts, the Memorizer no longer attempts to repeat the
words you are reciting, weeping and screaming for you to stop.
The Doctor makes a note and tells you to administer the shock, as
the Memorizer has not given the correct response.

Do you administer the shock?

At 200, the Memorizer can be heard thrashing around, pounding on
the chair, and yelling incoherently.  The Doctor tells you to
continue.  At 500, you stop hearing anything at all from the next
room.  The Doctor tells you to continue.

To remind the audience, this is the panel of switches....

O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O   O   O   O   O   O   O   O

5 10 15 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 150 200 300 500 XXX XXX XXX   VOLTS

Mild            Strong          Painful    DANGER!

How many of you would continue, throwing each consecutive switch,
until the Doctor tells you that the experiment is over?

[Within the audience, the hands raised at each point in the
lecture continued to diminish.  At the time that this last
question was asked, only one man raised his hand.  He is
mentioned later.]

------------------

Here are the results of the audience's average response:

At 80 volts, 90% said they would continue.

At 100 volts, 20% said they would continue.

At 200 volts, only 5% said they would continue.

At 500 volts and above, virtually nobody said they would continue.

------------------

Here are the actual results of the test:

At 80 volts, almost 100% continued.

At 100 volts, 90% continued.

At 200 volts, 85% still continued.

All told, 80% of those taking the test continued administering
shocks, even through the voltages marked 'DANGER!' and 'XXX'.

------------------

It is interesting to note that people think that they are immune
to authoritarian pressure, yet their behavior is quite different.
The 'Memorizer' is actually an actor, pretending to be receiving
shocks from the Reciter.  (A little light goes on when the button
is pushed....)  The Doctor simply tells the Reciter to continue.
If the Reciter refuses, the Doctor goes through the following
list of responses:

1)   It is crucial that you continue with the experiment.
2)   The shocks cause no permanent damage.
3)   If you do not continue, the research will be voided.
4)   You have no choice but to continue.

At such time as the Reciter refuses to continue, despite the
Doctor reciting all four responses, the experiment is
terminated.  Those instances where the Reciter is unable to
continue due to nervous breakdown, et cetera, the results are
counted from the last voltage given.

During the experiment, the notes the Doctor is taking are on the
Reciter.  Common reactions from the Reciters due to the stress
were heavy sweating, nausea, nervous laughter, gasping for air,
nervous twitching, spasms, and even convulsions.

Yet, as you can see, the results show that most people would, and
did, continue administering shocks until the end.

Those in the audience who raised their hands when asked if they
would continue administering shocks, even through the voltages
marked 'DANGER!' and 'XXX,' were those who had been through
similar experiences in the past where they had committed
attrocities against their will, simply because they were ordered
to do so.  As an ex-serviceman put it:

'When I was in a situation like that before, and my Seargent told
me to do it, I did it.  God help me, I'd probably do it again.'

So when you say to us...

"And there are so many sides to the conflict that people could pick
, that you can hardly say anyone was forced to kill and slaughter
their neighbours.  Most of the people chose to do it on their
own.  Not even the fear of being expelled from their comunities
could justify many of the crimes commited"

...then I say to you, 'Brother, you don't even know....'

Is it wrong?  Of course it's wrong.  And Shaitan wants both sides
dead.  Those who condemn the masses for the leadership and
compulsion of the few are playing right into his hands.

---------------------------------
A reszletet ( engedely nelkul) a soc.culture.bosnia-n talaltam.

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Subject : About the NIH GRANT LINE

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Remelem, hasznat veszitek.
Udv:
Karesz

Subj:	Doctoral Thesis Positions


Institut Romand de Recherche Numerique en Physique des Materiaux (IRRMA)

         DOCTORAL THESIS POSITIONS

         Two research positions at the doctoral student level are available at
IRRMA beginning January 1993. or later. The positions will involve research
activity in the general area of computational condensed matter physics, and,
in particular, of computer simulations of the electronic and structural proper-
ties of materials, within the IRRMA projects "Superlattices, quantum wells and
interfaces" and "Amorphous Materials, disordered systems, alloys, and phase dia-
grams". This activity will allow to fulfill the requirements for the obtention
of the doctoral degree in physics at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de
Lausanne (EPFL).

        Eligible candidates should have a diploma certificate from a Swiss Uni-
versity or an equivalent title [diploma PMF-a se priznaje u Svicarskoj bez pro-
blema, op. A.P.]. Applications including curriculum vitae and two letters of
recommendation should be sent, before December 1st, 1992., to:

        Prof. R.Car, director
        IRRMA-PHB Ecublens
CH-1015 Lausanne


Francia nyelvtudas elony, de nem alapfeltetel.
Udv:
Karesz

Kedves Hollosi Jozsi,

En ugy tudom, hogy nincsenek a Jumbonal nagyobb katonai repulok.
A C-130 (Hercules) kisebb, a Galaxy talan egy meret, a B-52 fesztavolsaga
esetleg nagyobb, de ossztomege biztosan kisebb. A Boeing ceg most
fontolgatja (Pannon Jozsef erositsen meg) egy 7-800 szemelyes oriasgep
kesziteset, talan az ezredfordulora kijon.

    Udv: Simanyi Nandor

Kedves Tippelok!

Mivel multkori erdeklodesem nem jart sok sikerrel es mar nagyon surgos.

Ha valaki tud olcso szallas lehetoseget Londonban (okt. 20-21.), kerem
sajat cimemre valaszoljon, vasarnapig legkesobb. (okt.18 este, Eszak-
Amerika/okt.19 reggel Europa)

                                  Koszonettel: Bezdan Sandor

Michael Durham-nek a csillagok fenyere vonatkozo erveleseben van
legalabb 3 szarvas hiba:

1. Az erveles euklideszi geometriat feltetelez a Kozmoszban, s'
ez biztosan nincs igy;

2. Azt a "lemmat' hasznalja, hogy ha egy gombfelulet egy reszhalmaza
vegtelen, akkor a halmaz azonos az egesz gombfelulettel;

3. A csillagok nem pontszeruek.

Egyebkent, megfelelo matematikai megkozelitessel, ez a vegtelen
fenyesseg valoban komoly dilemmat okoz! En ugy latom, hogy peldaul
kizarja a terido kompaktsagat (marmint a VEGES fenyesseg).

Mas ervelesek a veges fenyesseggel eppen azt akarjak igazolni, hogy
csak veges sok csillag van a Kozmoszban.

Az en filozofiai meggyozodesem az, hogy a terido kompakt, es igy pl.
csak veges sok csillag van benne, veges a tomege, korlatosak a meretei
stb. Igazolni - persze - nem tudom.

Mas: Valakinek volt egy kritikai megjegyzese, hogy a 10 kerdes egy resze
nem tudomanyos, hanem "filozofiai". Hat, ize, ha a filozofia az, amit
a megbiralt kerdesek feszegetnek, akkor a filozofia igenis tudomany!

    Udv: Simanyi Nandor

Egy korabbi Forum szamban hasonlo kerdes hangzott - jo szoveg! - el es
ott probaltam valaszolni. A trukk az, hogy a C-varians ertelmeben meghosszabbito
ttak a felvizcsatornat odaig, ahol a folyo teljes egeszeben szlovak
teruleten folyik es az elterelest ott akarjak megejteni Dunakiliti helyett.
Technikailag igy a magyarok nem avatkozhatnak bele, de nemzetkozi bonyo-
dalom persze varhato.
Denes

Kedves Miki!

Hogy miert van sotet ejjel, azt mar kislanyom is tudta 2 eves koraban:
mert a Napocska elmegy aludni. Trefat felreteve: a Galaktikaban megjelent
bla-bla-bla onmagat semmisiti meg vegkovetkeztetesevel. Mert teny,
hogy amikor a Fold azon pontja, ahol eppen vagyunk, elfordul a Naptol,
a sotet vilagegyetemmel nezunk szembe. Miert sotet tehat az univerzum?
A valaszt a kvantummechanika adhatja meg. Az elektromagneses sugarzasok
Planck-fele kvantumelmeletebol le lehet vezetni a Wien-torvenyt (elso-masod
eves fizikusi hazi-feladat): T x (lambda,max) = 2.90 x 10E-03 Kelvin meter
ahol T a sugarzo feketet-test homerseklete, (lambda,max) pedig az intenzitas
maximumhoz tartozo hullamhossz.  Ha a Nap spektrumanak maximumat 500 nm-nek
valasztjuk, a Nap homerseklete kb. 5800 Kelvin. Nos, a vilagegyetemben azert
van sotet, mert nagyon hideg van "odakint", kb. 3 Kelvin. Ennek alapjan
becsulhettek meg annak idejen, hogy a vilagurben milyen hullmahosszusagu
hattersugarzast kellene merni, s meg is talaltak (ha jol emlekszem a 40-es
evek vegen).

A valaszom kozel sem olyan bikfangos, mint a Galaktika-beli cikk ervelese,
de kovetkezmenye megegyezik a tapasztalatokkal: Ahhoz, hogy fenyesseget
csinaljunk, nagy melegseget kell teremteni. Milyen szep a magyar nyelv,
amikor azt mondja: hideg gyulelet ==> ... A kovetkezteteseket a jelenlegi
otthoni politikai allapotokra vonatkozoan rad bizom.

Meleg, barati udvozlettel: Gaspar Vilmos

Kedves Rev Endre!

Az a TIPP-em, hogy vedd elo a Discover Magazint, s valaszt kapsz kerdeseidre
minden reszleteben. Egyebkent en ugy gondolom, hogy minden tudomanyos kerdes
egyben vilagnezeti kerdes is. Meg akkor is, ha ezt a kifejezest lejarattak.

Masodik TIPP-em, hogy vigyuk at ezeket a vitakat a SZALON/FORUM-ba, mint
azt erdetileg javasoltam. Oda valok, azt hiszem.

Udvozlettel: Gaspar Vilmos

Kerdes; miert nincsenek a Jumbonal is joval nagyobb civil gepek.
A repteri tumultust nem latom elkerulhetetlennek. Ugy emlekszem
Japanban pl belfoldi jaratokon jar Jumbo, ezeket a gepeket tobb
ajtoval rendeltek, es par perc alatt megvan a teljes ki-beszallas.

Nem art felidezni, hogy a katonai szallitok nem annyira sokkal
nagyobbak. Amerikaban maradva a legnagyobb gep a Lockheed C-5
Galaxy, de csak 10 szazalakekal nagyobb mint a Boeing 747. Ossz-
sulyra pedig, nos igen, a 747-es kicsit tobbet bir el. Igaz, ero-
sebb motorja van mint a Galaxynak. A motor erejehez viszonyitva
a Galaxy emel tobbet, elvegre azert o a szallito specialista.

1985-ben palyara lepett a szovjet Antonov 124, aki, ha nem is sok-
kal, de elhoditotta a vilagelsoseget a Galaxytol. A Lockheednek
maradt a 'szabad vilag legnagyobb gepe' vigasz. Ma a vilagcsucs-
tarto az ujabb Antonov (88 meter fesztavolsag, 84 m hossz, 600
tonna osszsuly max. terhelessel). Ugyanez a 747-re korulbelul
60m, 70m es 400 tonna).

Erdekesseg, hogy az Antonov 225 sem a vilag eddigi legnagyobb
gepe. Legalabbis, a fesztavolsagban nem. 1947-ben epitettek az
az allamokban 97 m fesztavolsagu gepet is, de a probarepulesnel
csak 21 meter magasra futotta, es a dolog ezzel abba is maradt.

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